Should I buy a GM? or should I jump ship?

I don't know how you formed this opinion, but it's nonsense. My wife's Explorer has a German engine and French transmission. That Chevy Equinox I pointed out to you has a Chinese engine.

Again, let me ask you who *really* is shipping our jobs overseas. Regardless of who sells what, the foreigners are bringing auto mfg jobs here, while the domestics are shipping them out.

Anyone who buys a Mexican-built Avalanche over a U.S.-built Maxima because of some misguided "buy American!" bug is not seeing the bigger picture here.

Last time I checked, I could buy as much Toyota, Honda, and Nissan stock as I wanted. In fact I'm positive I have all three of their stocks in my 401k portfolio. So, who really benefits when you buy a Mexican-built Chevy? GM stockholders, that's who. The American worker sure as hell doesn't gain anything!

Yet another misconceived conclusion...

Here's an idea. Buy only American vehicles that are 20-60 years old. Then suppert the economy by hitting Jegs, Summit, NPD, and Eastwood. Then you damn well where your bux are going and you have a cooler ride to boot.

We'd all better buy two or three each then! ;-)

The US automakers regard this as 'North American' made according to NAFTA.

Unless you are a Japanese citizen you can not own stock in or own a Japanese company. The only thing you can buy on the NYSE is a certificate, the name of which escapes me at the moment, that is actually 1/2 ownership of a stock certificate held by a Japanese citizen for which you pay the price of a full stock that he owns and on which you receive half of the dividend. They don't all it Japan Incorporated for nothing

You are free to believe whatever you chose and spend you money wherever you wish. What Toyota, for example, has actually done is take 200,000 high paying America jobs, from domestic manufactures that paid millions of dollar in federal taxes, that provided good benefits and defined pension plans and converted then into lower paying jobs in Toyota assemble plants that were built primarily with state and local tax subsidies, that pay fewer benefits and offer only 401K pension plans that are half paid by the employees. The American consumer is the one that is export their own jobs as well as sending over four billion dollars annually to Japan tax free. Even Toyota has stopped saying that their vehicles are American made, because of complaints to the FCC. Toyota now says in their ads that the vehicles are assembled in the US of 'world sourced parts.' If it is ones intend to help the American economy buy only those vehicles with a 75% American parts content label and a '1' as the first number of the VIN. Avoid those with a J, K, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc.

mike hunt

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(busy dreaming of a nice red early 60's Skylark convertable...)

SIGH. New cars suck so much. No soul anymore.

Obviously you have not driven a car like my 2005 Mustang GT convertible ;)

mike hunt

Joseph Oberlander wrote:

Are you Goofy?

New cars are more reliable, get better fuel milage, safer, handle better, have better styling and certainly have more add on goodies than any older car. If all you want is brut power then get your 60's rust bucket. For me, I'll take the newer car. Soul? What older car had soul. Most had a huge appitite for high octane gas and tires. The '05 Mustang has power, soul, good mileage and most of all it's a safer car all around than it's 60's counterpart.

Agree...

Agree...

Agree...

Mostly disagree...cars of the 50's and 60's showed much more imagination in styling than just about anything produced today. Todays cars are cheesy moulded plastic

A definate minus in my book! I don't want cars with automatic ass-wipers. I want to operate the car, not the car operate me!

You don't go to car shows much do you?

To each his own.

You're kidding..right? Nope, no car shows for you, I take it.

True, but what does that have to do with "soul"? Also, so what?

The 05' Mustang appears to be a rare exception. I may even buy one of those in a couple of years (and I'm hardly a Ford person)

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Egads. The fake plastic covers for that should be real vents... The whole car is typical Ford plastic and show with not enough function. Just wait 7-8 years and tell us how much fun it is to be constantly repairing it.

But they all are jellybeans and have no soul. Well, there are a few expensive exceptions, to be sure, but the vast majority are bland pieces of well-engineered ticky-tacky. Like wearing around a dozen different versions of Timex watches.

Just what people want. A reliable appliance just like a wash machine or mixer. Turn the switch and go from point 'A' to point 'B'. Look at the car as the tool that it is. Besides, a non human can't have a soul.

Apparently you have chosen to comment on a vehicle that you have never seen, let alone know anything about. As to how it runs it will blow the doors off any 2005 vehicle you may own. As to how well they hold up I own the following old Ford vehicles a 1941,

1971 with almost 300K on the clock, 1972 with 170K, 1983 with 99K that all continue to run quite well, thank you. LOL

mike hunt

Joseph Oberlander wrote:

You've never seen the movie "Christine". :-)

Ya, and "My Mother the Car" and "Herbie the Love Bug".

Right...but Amway is only for the very few.

Ian

Running it into the ground?

I prefer American metal.