"Seeman, who operates the Web sites, said he doesn't feel any differently
about his Lexus SC 430 knowing that it was downgraded from 300 horsepower
to 288. "I'm still going to tell people it's 300.""
And probably still going to lie about how reliable it is....
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!
"Orrnje!" How's yours?
Arent you being a little touchy about this?
I agree it (HP) doesnt make a damn bit of difference... get a grip and a
sense of humor.
Now... on the subject of Toy/Honda owners lying about their reliability...
I been there, seen too much of it.
Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my wife, of course
Well one standard is that you have to use oil of the type recommended
for the engine. Putting 10 weight oil in for a HP test is cheating if
the engine as sold is supposed to use 30 weight.
Also, not running any accessories, such as an alternator for example
isn't fair if you customers will need to do that to provide the juice
for their sparks.
Oh yes, and another pesky rule is that the test has to be
In the end? Yeah in a race it is. In a brochure inflated numbers
win. If you think very many people actually bother to try and find
stats on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times for a non sports car before buying,
then I think you are mistaken.
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:26:29 -0800, "GLitwinski"
No, I think that most people test drive a car and let their seat of the
pants tell them if the car is "peppy" enough or not. Anybody who buys on the
basis of brochure hp ratings is...well, I don't know that such a person even
exists for cars that are readily available for test driving...like Toyotas.
I think most test drives people do not get to really step on it.
Either out of fear of exceeding speed limits or seeming abusive in the
presence of the salesperson.
Brochures matter. Especially when they help you determine what to
test drive in the 1st place.
There is a Toyota dealer located between two mountains. Whenever one asks
to take a test ride the salesman are trained to suggest the person do so in
their V6 demo. 'This car has been broken in so you can drive it as hard as
you wish to feel the power.' The reason they do that is if the buyer would
test drive a 4 cy Camry, rather than the salesman's V6 demo, they would
discover the 4 can barely gut of to the posted 65 MPH speed limit up the
mountain roads If the buyer insets on driving the 4 the salesmen takes him
into town instead of out on the highway. ;)
What would you expect from owners, but what about the 20% to 30% of the
owners you said do not think they have 'adequate power? Have I not always
said you are entitled to you own opinion? ;)
. I have
the cars accelerate up these hills at freeway speeds.
I don't know. I've driven a few 4-cylinder cars of most makes that
couldn't maintain speed on grades full throttle and in "passing gear"
(as they used to all it). Actually the worst vehicle was a 6-cylinder
1976 Ford Granada my mother used to own. Route 50 through WV, you'd be
lucky to be doing 40MPH by the time you hit the top of the
mountain...passing gear all the way up.
Todays vehicles seem to be somewhat better though, even the 4-cylinders.
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