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Happily maried, consulting. You? GM ass wipe?
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How can you possibly be "happily" married when you spend all hours on Usenet bitching and moaning? Who do you consult for? Something is wrong with the picture of you, and you damned well know it. As for me, I don't, nor have I ever worked for the UAW, CAW, GM, or any supplier of GM.
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I don't watch CBC for the brainwash.... gives you a first hint.
Who I consult for is none of your business.
And so what you haven't worked for the idiots, why then don't you go out and pay MSRP on a GM?
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Translation: My job sucks so bad, I'm ashamed to admit what I do; What I do helps no one, and is likely unethical; I don't actually have a job. That's what I thought.
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I believe you.
It is people like you who work at GM and have helped it get bankrupt
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I believe you.
It is people like you who work at GM and have helped it get bankrupt -------- Insightful. 80 Knight is probably a union ranter and in some undclosed way contributed to GM or/and Chrysler's downfall.
Many like to skirt the union roles in this. Management, board, union, suppliers all had a hand in GM's demise. But I do hold the board and management ultimately responsible, as when silly union demands came in, they should have put the brakes on decades ago.
The best part, is they are about to take the first step to get out of the taxpayers pocket. Give todays opening numbers, this may be sooner than later which is good.
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Gosi, you really shouldn't edit people's post's. It makes you look like an even bigger Troll/Asshole then you already are. Plus, it proves that you have no reasonable debate skills, and have the intellect of a 3rd grader.

Only if you consider buying there products 'contributing to there downfall'. I have stated many times that I don't work for, nor have I ever worked for GM, the CAW, UAW, or even any supplier to GM. Unfortunately, you can't seem to grasp that...But, that isn't the only thing you can't grasp, so there isn't much of a surprise there.

Well, well. Will wonders never cease. I actually agree with you here. GM, Chrysler, and Ford just kept agreeing to Union demands. They should've known that couldn't last forever.

But, what ever will you do if GM enters Chapter 11, or 7? Where will you spend all of the countless hours that you spend on the GM group bashing everyone who likes there vehicles? I would suggest spending it with your wife, but I assume she has grown tired of your bitterness, and left your ass some times ago (if you were married at all). See, I have known many people like you. You are an "Arm-Chair-Doer". That means, you do nothing in real life, you just bitch and moan in front of your computer, thinking you are accomplishing something, when in fact, you aren't in the slightest. Go play a baseball game, a soccer game, visit an oil field, I don't care, just don't be so damned bitter all the time. You're getting older, and it isn't good for you, and you know it. Listen to your Doctor, they usually do know best.
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Think what you will, but GM is going down. Chrysler is about to get tied up in court. GM & Chysler are in the toilet and she be a flushing.
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If you are too embarrassed to explain what you do for a living, I think that pretty much sums you up nicely.
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I didn't know McDonalds had "consultants."

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Having read "Canuck"'s posting profile on Google, it seems (other then cross-posted threads) he has never posted in a Dodge, Chrysler, or Ford group, regarding the Government loans. I think he has a real hard on for GM. I presume, he either worked at a GM plant, and was fired for negligence, or his wife ran away with a CAW or UAW member. Either way, he ain't that bright, and is a hypocrite to boot. He is also too chicken shit to answer my question of what industry he works in. I find that highly suspicious. Perhaps he doesn't even have a job, which would explain the hours he spends on the GM Newsgroup babbling on about the same shit.

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Ya' THINK? LOL

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We do what we do best. Right now that's agriculture, mining, petroleum, forestry. That's the most efficient way to oraganize labor and capital investment. IF we were competitive in the auto industry no problem. We would build them here. I'm sure NA won't stop buying cars.
Your's is the same old argument. We MUST keep things the way there were at all costs. Protectionsim helped create the conditions for the last great war. Trade wars bring real wars. The world's resources and labor are not evenly distributed. The way to build peace and happiness for all people in the world is to TRADE. Either let some of the over populated areas relocate to less populated or ship the raw materials over there to let them process.
Now I can just visualize the uproar about allowing more migration. Competition for jobs here. Blasphemy.
So what's your poison? Build conditions for another great war? Allow imigration? Reorganize our factories and labor costs?
Either way you slice it our factories are hooped in their present form.

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True. But I bet they will not be buying as many or as expensive autos going forward. Between the markets, job losses and future debt-corruption hit there is going to be less wealth in North America than before. This recession/depression is going to widen the have and have not gaps, and the only growth class will be working poor.

Jim has a rationality problem. Fear of change and competition type.
As you are right, part of this is about wealth redistribution and the government isn't doing anything meaningful at all. Not really much they can do but throttle our wealth.

Agreed. This country is built on immigrants, I have no issue with immigration other than their criteriea for getting in needs to be better than will have lots of little taxpayers and pay taxes. Many turn out to be gangs, killers, refuse from other counties. Our extradition of these needs to be liberally streamlined.

Who knows? If statism government feals it is loosing control of the herd, manufacture a war somewhere to keep people occupied, some think this has already occured and they might be right.
Yep, our factories have too much executive, tax and union lard in them to be competative.
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You never answered my question, pussy. What industry do you work in? Do you work at all Dave?
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Not as hard as I did last year, which was my highest taxed year ever. I saw how much taxes I was paying, and said this year I will work 1/2 as much. Right on track and taxes owed are much lower.
Why bust a gut for the government? Let someone else pick up the taxes I will not pay this year. I don't need the money that bad anyways. In fact if I could work 2-3 days a week at what I do I would. Worse yet, it used to be income from outside of Canada, that is it was a net income to Canada. That is the part I let go. Kept the easy stuff with less hours.
What I do is for you to figure out. But suffice, it isn't McDonnalds, they couldn't afford me. And a hint, I make more than an auto slacker and do it without a union.
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LOL Your reluctance to tell the industry you work in proves you have a pathetic job, if a job at all. My guess is you work for minimum wage, and your wife left you for a UAW/CAW man/woman.
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My job isn't the issue here bone head.
GMs abuse of the tax system and the corruption it creates. Taking from non-auto, many which get laid off without a bailout and make a lot less.
No, stick to the subject, it is GM/CAW/UAW greed and selfishness spiced in with private equity bailouts for the rich. For example, Carlyle will also be in trouble if GM goes under, the Harvard rich boys club with names like Quale, Bush, Bin Ladden...
It is about corruption.
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No, but it could answer an underlying question as to why you have such a hard on for GM, yet not Chrysler.

Municipalities with GM plants prosper when those plants are working to capacity. Just look at what the lay offs are doing to Durham Region.

Now it comes out. Bin Laden...Wow, I think you read too much bullshit on the internet. I should have known you were "one of those". So, which of the following was a conspiracy: Pearl Harbor, the Moon Landing, 9/11, etc. I think you need to replace your tin foil hat, get back to your supposed happily married wife, and quite bitching on a newsgroup. With all the anger you display here, I feel sorry for the prick your wife must have to live with. Get some counseling, and move on with your life. Governments are going to do whatever they want, and there isn't a damned thing you are going to change on a Newsgroup, get used to it.
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