OK..I gotta share this and maybe perhaps someone has either experienced this
before, or may know a possible theory.
I drove my 2000 Monte Carlo LS all over this morning taking care of some
errands. Probably turned it off and on about 5 or six times in a two to
three hour period. At my last stop before going home, I jumped in and the
car would not start. No turn over, no click no nothing.....OK...I figured
the heat (90 deg around here plus the driving) killed the battery. So I
popped on the headlights and other accessories to see if it was dead. All
worked fine. Then I thought maybe if the computer does not read fuel
pressure, the car would not turn over. Stuck my head out the door and
listened for the hum of the fuel pump. Got humm...no start......
Strange coincedence: Man parked right next to me has a brand new
motorcycle....less than 1000 miles. WOULD NOT START!!! We both looked at
each other thinking WTF is going on here....He decides to push his bike
around and pop start it...I pop the hood on my car and check for any loose
cables or wires...nothing..... I jump back in the car to close up the
windows and thought one last try for kicks......The $@%!@#$ car started
right up as if nothing was wrong....jump out of the car and the man on the
bike approached with his running bike and stated that his just started out
of the blue. He was coming back to see if I needed help. We both got the
WTF look again....
Conspiracy theory: Electromagnetic pulse jamming equipment.........
Who knows..seems way too odd. Almost unbelievable if it were not for being
This should pull some good stuff out of the wood work!!
It could be any number of things. I had a van once that when it got hot
(usually after pulling the boat) would not engage. It would freeze up not
letting the solenoid pull in to engage power to the motor. I just had
someone hit the starter while I hit the started motor with the lug wrench.
Worked every time until I changed the starter. If you have the original
battery it could be going. I had one that blew the top off due to a bad
internal connection. Diagnosing the problem with a voltmeter is the only way
to tell for sure.
When you turn off an engine, the water is no longer circulating, which
means that the heat is no longer being removed from the engine. That heat
has to go somewhere, so it heats up everything under the hood. When
electric/electronic components start to fail, they will often times
do it when they are exceedingly hot. And with the conditions you described
it was exceedingly hot under the hood. When you opened the hood you
let the heat escape, and the parts cooled down allowing you to start
the car. What specifically went out? Hard to say, but I would suspect
the starter/solenoid. If you are going to be driving under those
conditions fairly often, you may want to carry a test light or meter,
and when it happens check to see if you are getting voltage to the
solenoid when the key is turned. If not, then look elsewhere, if you
are getting voltage, and the engine does not start, then replace the
starter. It's a gm so the solenoid is part of the starter.
As far as the motorcycle? Same thing.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
Being as electronics is my career field, it makes PERFECT sense. Why I
didn't apply it to the car....I blame it on the heat..LOL I do not normally
drive all over like that, just had a bunch to do that day. I'll get me a
starter and leave it in the trunk...next time it happens I'll be prepared.
I've changed bigger parts than starters in parking lots...(did a clutch in a
dormitory parking lot once...what great fun that was!!)
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PERFECT sense. Why I
<br>didn't apply it to the car....I blame it on the heat..LOL I do
<br>drive all over like that, just had a bunch to do that day. I'll
get me a
<br>starter and leave it in the trunk...next time it happens I'll be prepared.<br>I've changed bigger parts than starters in parking lots...(did a clutch
<br>dormitory parking lot once...what great fun that was!!)
I have had similar starter problems with gm starters. I finally studied
the schematic and realized that the initial solinoid circuit is through
the starter motor. A worn or dirty brush will cause an intermittent
dead starter. At least that is the way I understand the schematic.
Hi yet again...
I stumbled on a solution that may be worth considering...
Over here (Canada) we can buy sheets about 30 inches by
60 inches of corrugated plastic...
These are almost identical to corrugated cardboard, but
last a long time, have infinite uses, and are reasonably
I always use one for a trunk "pad". If something should
spill or drip, I can lift it out, wipe or hose it off, and
put it back. I can get under the car if need be, wet or
dry. I can kneel on it (knees are old, too :) if I have
to change a tire or weed the garden at the lake. I can use
it much like a small tarp if something needs covering.
I can put it on the car back seat if I have to carry
dripping wet grandkids so as not to ruin the leather,
or I can put it on wet boat seats so as not to ruin
the grandkids :)
It's great stuff, highly recommend you try a sheet.
I get it at McDiarmid lumber, find it in the same
area as they have sheets of (mottled?) plastic
that might cover flourescent light fixtures.
For you 'mericans, your equivalent kinda store
might be Rona or Home ??? - large do it yourself
home improvement places. About 5 dollars cdn each,
about 3.50 would be us dollar equal I think.
Just a thought, tryin' to help
my car on it wet or dry.
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