Where is the stimlulus mony going?

The President submits the budget to Congress, which then changes the budget. So, the President does not determine the budget, but does have a lot of input. In addition, the President may veto the Congressional budget bills.

So, no, I am not saying that the President determines the amount of spending, although he has a lot of say in some parts of the budget (a large part of the budget, like Soc. Sec. spending is not discretionary).

However, i am saying that your claim that Bush vetoed Dim spending bills (most of the budgets that Bush had the option of vetoing came from Republican Congresses, so Dim is right) is incorrect. Only four of Bush's 12 vetos were overridden by Congress, and none of them were primarily budget laws.

I would also add that I find it hypocritical that you point out in some posts that the President is not responsible for the budget, then blame Democratic Presidents for budget deficits and give credit to Republican Presidents for budget surpluses and low taxes, while not having Bush take any responsibility for the budget deficit for the last fiscal year for which he was responsible.

Jeff

What part of "Those that can not afford to buy it get it for free," did you not understand? Surely you have heard of Medicaid for the POOR?

How does one not buying their own medicalcare become a problem for other taxpayers? They will get it any hospital because of the federal Hill/Burton Act..

If those on Medicaid do not have a car to go get their free Medicaid should we buy them a car as well? LOL

Bullshit. There are income limits for getting Medicaid.

You can ASSume what you want. From your comments, facts are not that important to you.

However, you have yet to show that $2.2B is being sent offshore, especially considering that four of the top 10 vehicles bought with the stimulus money are Fords.

Jeff

See how either/or you are? I didn't ask about 911. I'm pointing out the much broader reality of what we spend on the military, active occupations and active wars. America spends more on national defense than the reat of the world combined and that includes China and Russia.

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At least 90% of Bush's stimulus money went to Europe, China and other countries to pay off the losses caused by the sub-prime loan debacle. If we hadn't done so the rest of the world was about to ban buying American financial instruments. THEN we would have seen a deep depression.

When did this become a "CARS" thread? It is the GREEN bill that is sending 2.2 BILLION of our federal tax money to those foreign corporations for R&D, dummy. Why are we giving Nissan, a Japanese corporation that does not a penny in US federal corporate income taxes, millions to make batteries for cars being made in Japan. Good for workers and taxpayers in Tennessee perhaps but not the workers and taxpayers in any other state.

Giving a single penny of the now 3 Billion "CARS" money to foreign corporations is simply one more BOs screw up, in any event.

Really? Prove that 2.2 billion dollars are being sent off-shore. Please account for the profits of the dealers, all the cars bought (note that the 4 of the top ten cars bought with the money are Fords - made in the US

If I can take a page for your playbook. What is YOUR source that "Millions of people don't have health insurance in the US."

The fact is if one does not have health INSURANCE that does not mean they do not receive health CARE. The fact is they do receive health CARE, it is CURRENTLY the law of the land and has been for years.

Those without INSURANCE must be treated, just like those that do have insurance, because of the Hill/Burton Act... Do a search, WBMA

Name-calling again? The kids on my 1st and 2nd grade soccer team don't even do that.

Millions of people don't have health insurance in the US. That's not funny.

ROBIN BEATON: In May 2008, I went to a dermatologist for acne, pimples. A word was written down on my chart, which was considered to mean precancerous. In June 2008, I was diagnosed with invasive HER-2 genetic breast cancer, a very aggressive form of this cancer.

I needed a double mastectomy immediately. Blue Cross and Blue Shield pre-certified me for my surgery and for a hospital stay. The Friday before I was to have my double mastectomy, Blue Cross and Blue Shield called me by telephone and told me that my chart was red flagged.

BILL MOYERS: Red flagged. The insurer used inadvertent omissions on her original application ? data that had nothing to do with her current condition ? as an excuse to cancel her health policy. Without that insurance she couldn't have the cancer surgery that she needed.

ROBIN BEATON: I was frantic I did not know what to do. I didn't know how to pay for my surgery, the hospital wanted a $30,000 deposit. I was by myself I didn't have that kind of money.

BILL MOYERS: The committee found other insurers pulling the same tricks. Over the past five years the companies ? Assurant, Golden Rule and WellPoint ? had cancelled 20 thousand individual policies. Michigan Congressman Bart Stupak asked their executives if they would change their ways.

REP. BART STUPAK: Let me ask each of our CEOs this question, starting with you Mr. Hamm, would you commit today that your company will never rescind another policy unless there was intentional fraud-- fraudulent misrepresentation in the application?

DON HAMM: I would not commit to that.

REP. BART STUPAK: How about you Mr. Collins, would you commit to not to rescind any policy unless there is an intentional fraudulent misrepresentation?

RICHARD COLLINS: No, sir. We follow the state laws and regulations. And we would not stipulate to that. That's not consistent with each state's laws.

REP. BART STUPAK: How about you, Mr. Sassi, would you commit that your company will never rescind another policy unless there was an intentional fraud, misrepresentation?

BRIAN A. SASSI: No, I can't commit to that. The intentional standard is not the law of the land in the majority of states.

Please, you don't to call people names.

What are you talking about? CARS stands for "Cars Allowance Rebate System," and is known as cash for clunkers.

Nissan's US subsidies do pay state and US income taxes, just like any other US company.

None of that money is given to any foreign corporation. Rather, that money is given to people to spend on vehicles. If you don't like that people can use the money to buy vehicles made outside the US, why not write your Representative and Senators?

What someone buying a Ford Focus made in Michigan? Some of the components are made outside of North America.

We now have a global economy. And the entire global economy is in a recession, not the US economy.

Jeff

Whadya expect? Bush was the bad guy, so wnything associated with him was bad.

Obama is the Knight in Shining Armour, and ACORN are his legions, spreading the word of the Messiah.

Amazing, isn't it?

It was either that or get a bill for the full service.

Next time ask before you put your foot in your mouth.

And the downside is?

But of course, Obama is going to cut that spending, and we are going to be as weak as we were when Carter was in office.

There's something to look forward to.

None of it is going to mercenary contractors in Iraq. XE/Blackwater isn't getting a cent. None of it is going to defense contractors.

============ You're right, it's going to ACORN instead. The ACRON that is widely accused of violations in voter registration laws in 16 states. ACORN that wants to run the next census count by CALCULATIING democrats in the inner city while ignoring Republicans in the rural areas. ACORN that that has ties to ultra leftist individuals like Bill Ayers and Barack Obama. ACORN that is still ACORN but goes by different name(s) so it can avoid prosecution for past illegal deeds and connection to future illegal deeds.

Yeah, Blackwater is the Bad Guy. Sheesh.

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That _might_ be true on a dollar basis, but it is not true on a percentage of GDP basis. China and Russia and North Korea all spend more on a GDP basis than we do. Lots of countries spend more than we do on a percentage of GDP.

You were clearly an idiot for paying it.

Why don't you foment some revolution in Canada, land of queens. And don't try to say you ain't canadian while you cash your pay "cheque". Goddamned wimpy canadians living vicariously through America. =================================================

What is it like to be an ignorant prick? Canada would do just fine without you, and you know it.

Higgins, why don't you go home and "plonk" your boyfriend. You have trolled enough for one day.

Yes. F---ing amazing.

Even with their increased military spending, we STILL spend more on defense than the rest of the world combined.