I used to go with the Sears Diehard batteries too. You're right, the cost
of a battery is cheap compared to the cost of a new vehicle. I would never
think of getting a new vehicle when only a battery is needed! Besides, it
only has 33k miles and 2-1/2 years old. Still "new" to me.
I'd still rather let warranty handle it if the dealership deems it needs
Your dealer should have a very good tester for your battery. It is mandatory
for him to have. It is a unit automatically sent to all dealerships and
takes about two minutes to do a test on the battery. Ask to see the printout
which prints from the tester and is just like a credit card receipt. The
test is either good or replace/pass or fail. So there is no "let;s wait and
see what happens" scenario.
As others have mentioned it depends on where you live. Extremes in
temperature take a toll on a batterys life.
The Honda battery is manufactured by Interstate Battery to Honda
specifications. The MSRP is $92.94. It has one of the best warranties in the
business. It is a 100 month warranty battery. It is replaced at no charge in
the first 36 months for free if it fails and is prorated for the balance of
the 100 months. That is the case if you buy it. Keep in mind that if your
dealer replaces your batttery the replacement you get will only be covered
for the balance of your new car 3 year/36,000mile warranty.
If you are a customer with the dealer you may have some influence in
negotiating a fair price to buy one and gain that 100 month warranty. The
incentive to the dealer is that you may give him a few more dollars than he
would be paid by Honda for the warranty, which is only about $15 less than
MSRP. If you've never been back for any maintenance, don't expect any more
than getting the warranty handled.
WRONG! I apologize. What I wrote is true for most any warranty replaced part
Honda Replacement Part batteries used under the New Car Limited Warranty are
covered by the Honda Genuine Replacement Battery Warranty (100-months).
Most replacement batteries are total covered for a time (like 3 years)
and are prorated after that (so if it fails after say 50 months, you
have to pay 1/2). 100 months for a battery is still a long time: over 8
I was not mistaken.
The warranty for batteries is typically a period where the seller will
replace a battery for free (if it is defective) followed by a period
where the battery is prorated (perhaps 3 years). After 3 years, to
determine the number of months left, subtract the number of months since
the battery was sold from the total warranty period (say 100 months).
Then divide this by the total warranty period.
If it is a 100-month prorated warranty, and you have 50 months left, you
will get 50/100 or 50% of the new battery covered. If you have 10 months
left, you will get 10/100 or 10% of the new battery covered. If you have
60 months left, you will get 60/100 or 60% covered.
So battery replacement is fully covered withing the full replacement
period and is prorated after that.
Another way to think of it is that a battery with a 100-month prorated
warranty that costs $80 is really a $0.80 per month battery. If you keep
the car forever, on average, you'll spend about $0.80 per month for the
battery. In real life, it doesn't work this way, because you rarely keep
a car forever (and, at any rate, the longest you can keep a car is
around 100 years, and after that, well, you won't be able to claim the
warranty anyway), but in theory, this is how it works out.
That is the way the automotive batteries are typically covered.
I believe you are mistaken. A "Limited Lifetime Warranty", at least for
Sears Diehard Gold is . The first 36 months is a totally free replacement,
followed by prorated coverage, which is based on the percentage of use that
you have gotten from the battery. At least that was the warranty when I
worked there several years ago. BTW Sears Diehard Gold and Interstate are
both manufactured by Johnson Controls to specifications set by the retailer.
I believe you are spot on. The last change back to all Johnson Controls
products took place after I left Sears. While I was working there, Johnson
Controls made all of the DieHard Gold batteries but the DieHard Silver and
the bottom line (I dont recall what they were named) were built by Exide.
Some of the Exide batteries were good, some were so-so, and some were less
than satisfactory, if you know what I mean.
There was quite a difference in the warrantees also. An amusing aside... A
gentleman came into the store one day with a Sears battery that was in a
1957 Ford that he purchased in 1959 and drove it to Alaska. The car had
given up the ghost at some point in time after his arrival in Alaska and the
battery had been residing in a Case frontloader/backhoe combination since
that time to present (this was in 1997). The battery at long last had
failed. It was dead and would not take a charge. He (jokingly) asked if
there was still any warranty left on the battery. I checked, knowing full
well what the answer would be, but gave him a 10% discount just on general
principles.... So they did build some good ones even back then....
"Howard" <howardh1951-at-hotmail.com> wrote in message
In Maryland, so I get the hot weather along with snow in the winters.
Still - seems premature compared to other cars & batteries, including
people I know. We'll see!
I used to take my old car to this dealership all the time. It was much
older so it needed more work! However, not much is needed for this car yet.
Also often take it to a guy now who is a Honda mechanic but does work on the
Normally don't like going to a dealer for a battery when I can get it done
much cheaper than a dealership. But I know a good working relationship with
a dealer is a good thing to have...
I'd go to the dealer and have them test it. If it is really bad (or, the
charging system), they'll tell you. Sounds like you have about a month
and a half. I bet you can arrange a time before the warranty expires.
Just got back from the dealer a short while ago. They said the battery is
actually fine. It's rated at 410 CCA (cold cranking amps) anb is currently
reading 377 CCA. with 12.62V. They gave a printout graph showing where the
battery is in relation to needing replacement. Let's say the graph is
splint into thirds, so it is reading about 1/3 down. Once it gets to 2/3
down, then it needs replacing.
While there, I was looking at the Civics and the new Accords. I actually
liked the size of the Civic more and the Accords are just getting too big!
Even wish my '05 was closer to the size of previous generation Accords..
So everything still works fine now, and I'll keep chugging along!
Thanks to everyone who responded,
Well, when it comes times to replace the Accord, and cars keep getting
bigger, you'll be wanting the car the size of the Fit, which will by
then be the size of the Civic. Of course, there will be a new small car
to replace the Fit.
However, with the high prices of gas and the CAFE requirements, I am
wondering whether or not the size creap will stop, and cars will remain
the same size from generation to generation.
We'll see (I hope I live long enough, but I don't have any plans of
No doubt. And the gas mileage on the new Accord went down. Just think how
much gas and $$ spent on gas can be saved if engines kept the efficient
aspects they have now, but reduced the power output! Motor companies are
only giving the public (mainly American public) what they want, and now
those same people turn around and complain about the price of gas for their
15mpg truck they drive 40 miles a day to/from their office job!
-Dave (stepping down from the soapbox)
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