05 Accord, engine flutters and other various problems

Hello, I suggest that you take it to the service department and ask to speak to the manager of the service department. Tell him or her everything you stated below. Make sure that all of these problems are taken care of while the vehicle is still under warranty. Does anyone in this newsgroup know whether or not this vehicle could be covered by the lemon law? If so, please post. Jason

On 4/17/2005 9:06 PM Jason spake these words of knowledge:

First, so-called 'Lemon laws' are enacted by state legislatures; they vary from state to state - some states do not have any laws that would fall into this category with respect to automobiles. In order to determine applicability, you would need to know the state that the OP purchased the vehicle in.

Second, *most* automobile lemon laws refer to an avenue for returning a vehicle within a specific time frame when the dealer has been unable (or unwilling, in some cases) to satisfactorily address a specific problem after several (generally three or more) attempts to fix that problem.

Unless there is more to the story than has been given, the law of *most* states would not apply to this vehicle.

RFT!!! Dave Kelsen

With problems 1, 3, and 4, it sounds like the car amy have been in a collision and was repaired poorly. How much do you know about the history of the car?

You don't state whether you bought the car from a dealer or an individual. I would suspect that either one was not entirely forthcoming about the history of the car. Just because a dealer sold it (if you bought from a dealer) doesn't mean that they will be any more honest with you than anyone else. I once bought a 1999 Pontiac Firebird that I suspected numerous times of having been in an accident. I had no way to prove it. The dealer had a body shop on site, so if someone had wrecked it on a test drive, the dealer could have repaired it without anyone ever recording the damage.

As for the problem of the steering wheel vibration, turn your air conditioner off. The problem should go away. Pretty much, all Honda's have that steering wheel vibration when the A/C is turned on. The A/C compressor places an additional strain on the engine that is noticable at idle and causes that vibration. There is nothing wrong with it.

If you turn off the A/C and the steering wheel is still vibrating, then you do have a problem and should take it to a dealer for repair.

Jeff

"Jeff Foster" wrote

My '04 4-cyl auto Accord does not vibrate when the a/c is engaged.

it does sound like you may have bought one that was in an accident and maybe the door and bumprer were replaced. if you got a real good deal on it, be happy and the air leak in the door can probably be fixed by a simple hinge adjustment. if it's supposed to be brand new i would be upset and demand a trade for a different one. all hondas have the rumbly steering wheel i think. the power steering they use seems more powerful than other cars and the trade off may be a slight vibration in your steering wheel. find out the history of your car and decide what you want to do. i bet its still a wonderful car and much better than the competition.

I have a 2004 Accord EX Coupe and there has been a creaking noise coming from the top left side of dash since day 1. There is also a loose feeling drivers seat that Honda refuses to repair under warranty.

Welcome to Honda's declining quality.

It is unlikely that the service department will find and fix the problem, You will have to turn up your radio to mask it.

I also had a 98 accord 4cyl which you would feel engine vibration through the steering wheel. They consider this to be a normal Honda trait. Pretty much anything they don't feel like fixing will be dismissed as normal.

Lemon laws do not apply to rattles, vibrations and annoyances. Only to mechanical troubles or prolonged loss of use.

When I attempted to get my 2004 Accord loose drivers seat issue resolved by contacting a Honda Regional Rep. I was told that the seat works as it was engineered to.

I then asked him if there was a reason that Honda engineers put that much play into the seat. His response again was " The seat works as it was engineered " and "Didn't you notice it was loose when you took the car for a test drive"

Honda quality is definitely in decline.

It sounds like you are having more trouble with the service department there brushing you off than you are having with the Honda build quality.

So, if you test drive an identical model does the seat have the same problem?

Mike

Took my 2004 Accord to 2 dealerships. Each one said the seat movement was normal. Called Honda consumer relations and a representative called me back and said the seat performs as it was designed.

I spoke to another 2004 Accord coupe owner I met in a parking lot and he has the same loose seat feel. Was also told by Honda service department that this is normal. Owner also once owned a prelude and didn't have a seat problem.

If you read the business sections, Honda sales have fallen compared to other Japanese makes.

Yes...our 2004 Accord LX has that annoying seat movement while driving. I keep thinking it isn't locked in place or something. After reading everything here though I will make no attempt at the dealer to repair it.