2002 Odyssey Used Prices

Hi, I'm in Ottawa, ON Canada and i'm looking into purchasing a used 2002 Odyssey LX. I'm wondering what a fair price is? The dealer has it listed as 20995
with 63, 000 Km on it. I took it for a drive and it seems OK and the interior exterior all look in good condition. Also, doing some research I found that there have been a few people with transmission problems and I'm wondering if I should be concerned. Dan
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www.odyclub.com for answers to your questions and yes they have transmission problems. 2002 five speed is a little better than the 99-01 four speed but still has more problems than it should.

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Have you tried www.edmunds.com ? It has used car pricing by geographic location (can't remember if that includes Canada), car mileage and condition, and retail, private party and trade-in.

used 2002 Odyssey

listed as 20995

OK and the

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Look at www.autotrader.ca
Stewart DIBBS
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For this price or less , you could get a brand new dodge caravan with a full warranty. They advertise is for around $19,000. If you go through apa.com or similar organizations, the invoice price could be even less, as they tend to go through the fleet manager.
The 2002 Odyssey is 4 years old and you don't know its history. There is probably rust starting out inside the bumpers and the top of the doors already - thanks to salt on the winter roads. However it would be worth it to call up Honda or even just do a carfax report to see how much warranty is left.

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ER wrote:

Why in the hell would he want a Crapsler minivan? Odyssey gets slightly better gas mileage, has more power, and a 5-speed automatic vs the Caravan's 4-speed. Although past Odyssey's had tranny issues, tranny failures are much more common on Caravans. Honda at least has been working to fix their tranny problems, unlike Crapsler. Beyond the tranny issue, the Odyssey is still much more reliable. Caravans are proven junk.

Any car, foreign or domestic, is bound to develop rust if the proper precautions are not taken.
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Honda transmission failure rate in the 99-03 year is far higher than Caravan's. Odyssey also has problems with EGR, iac, and other areas. A new Caravan would be a far better investment than a four year old Odyssey with an unknown past and especially paying just about the cost of it when it was new.

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Woody wrote:

Do you have proof of this?
And you obviously missed where I said that at least Honda works to fix their tranny problems, unlike Crapsler. In case you forgot, Honda extended the warranty on the 4-speed automatics and issued a recall for the 5-speed automatics. Crapsler 4-speed auto trannies have been prone to failure since the late 80s and they have never admitted to it.

Honda also extended the warranty on the EGR. There is a perfectly logical reason why Crapslers have such long warranties... they know they make junk.

But a 4-year-old Odyssey is still likely to be more reliable than a new Caravan. I know quite a few owners of newer Crapslers who hate their cars because they have had many problems with them from the time they were new. I'd rather pay more money for peace of mind knowing that an Odyssey is still less likely to break down than a Caravan, and that Honda at least works to fix such problems.
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And their transmissions in general have been crap since the late 70s, when my father's 77 LeBaron dropped the transmission onto the freeway at speed.
Chrysler said, "Not our problem. Tough luck."
On the other hand, Honda is handing out transmissions like men hand out beads at Mardi Gras. I for one expect never to have to pay for any transmission repair on my 02 Odyssey as long as I own it.
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Just to give you guys and update. I had to walk away from the dealership as they didn't want to cut a "reasonable" deal. I'm still on the prowl for a mini-van but I've got a couple of leads. As for the Dodge Caravan, it had crossed my mind as well as the Chevrolet/Pontiac but I'd rather stay away from domestic. I've had better success with imports rather than the domestic models even with a warranty. I've heard just as many horror stories from either. Dan

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Let's separate those out:
Honda 4 speed auto transmissions that were hooked to 6 cylinder engines were absolute junk. Those were in the 99-01 Odysseys (as well as 98-02 Accords).
Come 02, Honda put an all-new 5 speed transmission in. This one had one issue, which was easily diagnosed and fixed during recall.
I do believe it was probably into the 04 model year before the fix was incorporated into manufacturing.
But I'd trust an 02 Odyssey transmission far, far more than I would any 99-01. And it's easy to see if you have or have had a problem one or not.
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Not according to the Consumer Reports reliability survey. Here are the transmission failure rates (in percent) for the two vehicles by year:
             99         00         01         02         03
Odyssey        9.3-14.8    2.0-5.0    5.0-9.3    5.0-9.3    <2.0
Caravan        >14.8    >14.8    2.0-5.0    5.0-9.3    2.0-5.0

CR indicates that five year old Odys (1999 models at the last survey) were more reliable than two year old (2002) Caravans. Overall, the Ody is far more reliable in most model years.
Of course this doesn't mean that the particular Odyssey in question will be more reliable than a particular new Caravan, but it isn't the long shot you might suspect. It also isn't clear that the new Caravan would be cheaper to buy. I think the earlier poster was quoting US price vs. Canadian for the used Ody.
If the dealer would throw in a warranty on the power train, the Ody could be an attractive purchase.
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Anger aside, Generally a Honda's reputation is I still maintain my view that a brand new car for less money is less risk than one 4 years old.
There is definitely rust if the car is from Ontario or Quebec. What's the history? Was it flood damaged or salvaged after being declared a total loss?
How was it maintained? regular oil changes?

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And for what they charge at a nice restaurant, you could gorge yourself and your entire family at McDonald's.
What's your point? You're comparing apples to oranges.
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:04:55 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"

Indeed. Me and the wife were looking at vans a month ago. had a final choise of 3 vehicles, a 97 town+country with every option, except 4wd for $6k, a 98 V70 fr $6500 and 3rd row seats, or a 98 ody for $9k
all had similar millage, and clean full service histories. I wanted the volvo, wife wanted the ody but in the end we got the chrysler, because its the cheapest, and repair costs were lower (well parts) and she liked the chrysler colour scheme better than the ody's - and she saw no rea reason to spend 50% more for a vehicle she didn' like the interior of. Oh, and her work has a 96 T+C she used to drive (until it got hit twice in 2 days) that i can probably canabalise for repairs.
It'll be paid in 2 years, and we'll probably get a new ody then, but they are apples and oranges.
on a side note, went to the local hospital last week, to visit a wifes relative, just had a premature baby. They're expanding the hospital, and so the security guy gave us a lift to the visitors entrance in his 05 grand caravan. Gotta say, its nasty and grim in there. Granted I'm no fan of the "information center" in my 97, but at least they're not scattered everywhere like in the new ones, and the interior fixtures and fittings are identical.

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