I have been running non-ethanol gas in my S 2000 to see if there is any
difference from gas with ethanol. While mileage appears to have picked up a
mile or so at best and perhaps performance "seems" a little better, I must
admit the assessment is, at best, quite subjective. The price difference is
considerable -- right at .30 per gallon, so it would appear not to be cost
effective. What has been the "groups" experience on this subject.
On 10/30/2012 8:30 AM, Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
OK. i suspect it's a state by state thing. In Oregon, they changed the
law to require 10% ethanol all year. I don't know if that applies to the
few gas stations on Indian land. The state ban on self-service gas doesn't.
It results from political pressure from big contributors (and payback to
them) to keep gas prices higher than the free market would support. Main
culprit is state gasoline retailers trade association whose members
benefit from the higher prices.
In answer to questions like yours, always remember: Follow the money!
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he vows to donate yours.
On 11/1/2012 6:30 AM, Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
Actually, I thought perhaps some gas station attendant union is
involved in it and this rule would force the station owners to employ
more of them than they would otherwise. In either case, the reason is
politics, not a public safety issue, I think.
On 11/1/2012 4:06 PM, Douglas C. Neidermeyer wrote:
There is a lot of misinformation in this thread. Gas prices in NJ are
generally lower than the neighboring states, and I think the rest of the
country for that matter. There is no "gas station attendant union".
And 'follow the money'??? The money has for years been trying to get
self service - all the oil companies and chain retailers want it. This
issue in one of the few in which politicians have stood up for the
people and kept NJ civilized. Our wives, mothers and grandmothers don't
have to pump gas in the heat/cold/rain/snow. And pumping gas is a great
first job for thousands of young people, and part time second job for
many older ones.
What a quaint, 1940's view of womanhood.
My wife can: use a chainsaw, reload shotgun shells, change the oil in
her car....and before you make a crack about how she looks--- made it to
the third cut of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders tryouts back when she
Don't forget to change your clocks on Sunday-- and your President on
From what I have read, there is some citizen group that objects to
self-service fueling. Any time there has been a proposal even to put it
on the ballot for the voters to decide, the group threatens political
retaliation, or so I've read. Apparently the voters aren't motivated
enough to try a citizen initiative. In 11 years I have not heard any
reports of fuel stations on Indian land blowing up because drivers fill
their own tanks. And while it's nice to not to have to get out when it's
raining, gas stations have remodeled to put solid canopies over the pump
islands as part of vapor recovery.
Also, laws do not need a justification or logical reason to exist, IMO.
That was considered in Oregon; however there is a concern that would
void manufacturer warranties. Manuals state that up to 10% ethanol fuel
may be used. We don't need a boatload of class-action lawsuits that
leave the consumers stuck in the middle and SOL.
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