I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper. I took my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is Geico. I made sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was able to get an OEM on my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I want to make sure that the car stays with original parts unless of course "I" happen to actually cause damage due to my neglegnece. SO far, things just happen to this car that is beyond my control.
Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as original OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.
Ask the bodyshop. They will have been told by the insurance company what to
use. If they've been told to use aftermarket, you can either phone Geico
and try to get them to pay for an OEM bumper (good luck!), or you can top
up the insurance company's money to have the bodyshop buy an OEM one.
OEM is considerably more expensive than aftermarket unless you get a used
one, and is considerably better quality. Used OEM is fine.
If the rebar is also being replaced, make sure that's OEM as well.
Aftermarket rebars are badly made. The bumper skin will assume the shape of
the rebar, so if the rebar is misshapen, so will be the skin.
Well I told the Geico man I wanted OEM and he said "no problem on such a
minor thing." Since the Geico man and the Honda people seem very buddy
buddy, I need to know how to tell that it is OEM. I have a $250 deductable
and I would have to pay out of pocket for and aftermarket one when I could
buy that on my own.
YOu might try asking someone in the parts department at your Honda dealer if
there is a way to tell. Also if there is only one Honda dealer in your
area, the bumper would probably have had to come thru him if it is original.
No reason they shouldn't be buddy buddy. Markup on parts sold to insurance
companies is huge. If you really, really want to know, tell them you want
to see the parts number sticker, bag or tag that comes with it.
There will be a Honda parts sticker on the back, plus the molding die is
marked up a certain way. You won't be able to see this without removing the
bumper from the car.
You can do one of two things:
1) ask the bodyshop to give you a copy of the invoice for the bumper (price
removed of course), or
2) ask to see the bumper when it comes in.
Anyway, I don't think you have anything to worry about. If you were told
you were getting an OEM bumper, then you're getting one. The "buddy buddy"
thing is probably just because they deal with each other all the time on
Depends on the age of the car, too. Many insurance companies have a policy
of using OEM until the car is three years old.
Also I understand some states mandate the use of OEM parts on insurance
replacements, no matter what.
I recently had an animal run into my car and it destroyed my bumper. I took
my ride to the Honda dealer for repair and my insurance is Geico. I made
sure that I requested an original OEM bumper. I was able to get an OEM on
my windshield that cracked for no reason, so I want to make sure that the
car stays with original parts unless of course "I" happen to actually cause
damage due to my neglegnece. SO far, things just happen to this car that is
beyond my control.
Is there anything to look for as far as identifying the bumper as original
OEM? It is the front bumper by the way.
For what its worth, I've been told that after market body parts are not made
to exactly match the OEM parts by design. Something about patents and such.
Nah, it's just that the aftermarket simply does not have the budget to
engineer the molds and dies the way Honda did. The appeal of aftermarket
direct-replacement is economy, not quality. They have to find ways of
making the parts cheaper than OEM, and that means cutting all the corners
Their materials are cheaper as well. Quality control is much laxer in the
aftermarket. They simply can't afford to throw away all the production that
the OEMs do.
The aftermarket does not have access to the OEM engineering CAD files and
blueprints, which are heavily guarded and protected. They have to get hold
of actual examples of the parts, then work backwards to obtain their own
specs. This is a terribly inaccurate way of engineering a part, especially
something as large and floppy as a bumper skin. And then they're only going
to spend so long welding up and grinding down the molds, since that takes
time and money, so...
I've been involved in the OEM process. The detailed engineering of OEM
parts is astoundingly expensive, exhaustingly intricate, and is only
justifiable in huge production quantities. Low-volume OEM parts are
developed the same way as high-volume OEM ones, but with a price that
reflects the small amortization base.
Remember, Honda made hundreds of thousands of bumpers. The aftermarket
makes a few thousand. Big, BIG difference.
Actually,some other company probably makes the bumpers FOR Honda under
Honda buys lots of parts from local sources.Cats,exhaust parts,sensors,...
that's how they keep the US domestic content high enough to qualify as US-
No reason why they can't make extra bumpers and sell them thru their own
Of course. But that's irrelevant. The working drawings come from Honda,
The point is that Honda has the budget to develop the thing properly in the
first place, and has the clout to demand extremely high standards. The
aftermarket has none of that.
They may not be allowed to. Honda paid for the development, remember?
With modern CAD/CAM technology,they can take a bumper off a car,measure it
and turn out detailed specs for manufacturing molds to make their own.They
can buy the raw plastic from the same supplier the OEM company uses.
For metal parts,the materials may be of lesser quality,a cheaper alloy,or
not as thick a galvanized coating,or maybe no coating at all.
My experience with aftermarket body parts is that they are grossly
approximate in dimensions and usually fit poorly. This can only mean either
poor quality or bad dimensioning, or both.
You cannot properly measure a made bumper and make a tool exactly the same
as the original. You do not exactly know the shrink factor.
They can, but do they? Again, my experience is that if they do, they're
buying a substandard grade or something, because toughness, flexibility and
stability are usually not the same as OEM.
And bad dimensioning. Last aftermarket bumper rebar I looked at was bowed
down in the middle. The thing was brand-new, so there was no excuse for
Ok. This is the part number for the bumper (front): 04711-SDA-A90zz
($259.80). It appears to be the same. I even compared it to other cars on
the lot with the same color as mine. I also noticed that the right side
that meets the headlight has a little gap along the bottom. The bumper
seems to be a perfect fit otherwise. I have also noticed this same affect
on other cars - on the same side...
The number appears to be a valid Honda part number.
Tong Yang Plastics in Taiwan is listed in my searches as the OEM supplier
to Honda for that part number. But if your car was made in North America,
then likely the bumper was made by a North American supplier intead.
I recently purchased a 2007 CRV ( 2.4 L Petrol engine). So far so good. Very
well made car
however I am getting ridiculously high fuel consumption figures. On average in
driving I'm averaging 17.5L per 100km or 13.4 mpg. This is what you would expect
from a truck
not a brand new Honda. The worst consumption I could find on web reviews was
which is a far cry from what I'm getting. Am I missing something?
The car hasn't had it's first run-in service yet. I'm currently using RON 95.
My 2005 gets 17 mpg on a good day city, they will tell you break in etc...
but my experience is the CRV is OVERstating the fuel MPG. best on highway I
get is 23 MPG...Yes I know what some will say driving habits etc...I know...
Not happy with the MPG Period,...
I am sure yours will improve as it breaks in but not that much...If you find
the reason send me an email as I have brought mine to dealer twice and all
they say is all OK....
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