the thing i find interesting is the fact that it's clearly not been an
issue all this time. i've just got myself another crx, 1990 dx, and it
absolutely flies. i'm sure that upgrading from 2pfi to 4pfi would
improve performance further, but i wonder how much difference there is
between a "good" d15 and a "not so good" d16. since there's always
variance in output from engine to engine - speculating, you could
therefore argue that the difference could be approaching that of the
Well, JT's got a point, but now that I've already opened my virtual
mouth, the cat's out of the bag. Now that I think back on it, I had
indications it was a 1.5L after comments from the shops who did timing
belt changes at 60K and 115K, but they never mentioned the engine number
stamped on the block or the possibility that it wasn't the original
engine. And it's really not as big of a deal as I probably made it
sound, especially since I've been considering a swap anyway for quite
The D15 in the DX is rated at 90hp, and the D16 in the Si is rated at
110hp. My car's not exactly sluggish, and the current engine runs well,
but that's still a pretty healthy amount of power to be giving away,
especially in such a light car.
Oh, and JT, this one's for you:
Too bad an engine swap is even being discussed - I'd leave it exactly as
is. Actually, the $3200 he spent on paint would've paid for one hell of
a mechanical restoration, plus a "normal" paint job.
that's insane. don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful thing, but i want a
car that goes - that means goes fast, stops fast, and pulls g's when
cornering. the old cvcc's are just not on a par with the 88-91's in any
Well, yeah, but the old cvcc's are fine around-town cars - you just have
to adjust your expectations performance-wise accordingly.
OTOH, there's this:
I've come to the conclusion that no matter how extreme something is car-
wise, someone's probably not only thought of it already but has actually
done it. Case in point: there's a guy on the cover of either the current
or last month's issue of Super Street who has shoehorned a 700hp turbo
K-series engine into a Fit. And it's not a stripped-down race car.
I can't speak for San Francisco, but around here (Dallas area) I have found
the Edmunds numbers to be a maximum you can only aspire to. You did notice
that it is the trade-in value, not suggested retail? My experience has been
if you drive into a dealer with a 17 year old car of any type or pedigree,
the offer will be about $50.
yeah, and all the service techs take them home to sell on the private
market for a good deal more. except the crx's - they keep those. the
dealer near where i live always has a bunch of crx's out the back where
the staff park.
I've seen CRX shells, with no motor or trans, sell for more than $700.
Trade-in values are always ridiculously low, but I can't imagine many
CRX owners trying to trade them in at a dealer vs. a private sale.
Anyone who doesn't think $1500-2000 for a generally clean, unmodified
88-91 CRX is easily attainable isn't familiar with how much in demand
these cars still are. A really nice one that's been well-maintained by
an original owner will sell for considerably more.
no kidding. i just paid $1k for an unmodded crx - one lady owner from
new. 105k miles. immaculate inside. 100% stock [apart from the brake
pads]. never crashed. paint's not so great, but it's all stock. i've
only had it a week, but already i've had two people offer to buy it!
yes, dx auto. i want auto because of a knee problem and have been
assembling parts from the 90-91 ex auto, originally so i could put the
d16a6 4pfi + auto into my 89 civic hatch. i think the crx is now the
candidate! if that goes well, maybe i'll do the b20 + auto swap from a
prelude on the civic...
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:04:19 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
Sometimes, this works to the buyer's advantage, too.
My last Dodge Caravan was bought from a local Dodge dealer, used. When I
went there, he offered me a test drive, explaining that it was a
4-cylinder, but had plenty of power.
I drove it, and was certain that it was a 6. I had previously owned 2 6
cylinder 3.3L caravan's, and this one had the same feel, power-wise.
When he went in to get me a final price (based on it being a 4), I popped
the hood, and verified it was a 3.3L. It had only 30K on it, and I walked
away with it for just over $8,000.
I sure as hell wasn't telling him they had it marked wrong... ;-)
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