First day as a new Honda owner. Got a (new) 2007 Accord EX for my
daughter yesterday, and we are quite happy with it. Just a really well
One feature I'm surprised to not see is the "auto-door-lock" function.
This is where all the doors lock as the vehicle reaches a certain speed
(15-20 mph) after the doors have been opened. I'm used to it on all my
Dodge vehicles, and didn't even think to ask about it on this one. Am I
missing something, or is this feature really not here?
Anyway, I also got the 8 year, 100K mile, 0 deductible warranty on it, so
am looking forward to many years of trouble-free operation. Glad to be a
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
If you find it, let me know but I don't think it's there. I broke with
tradition<g> and actually looked through the manual and was unable to find that feature for my 2006 Accord.
You're right about one thing, though. Great cars!
I would not have purchased my 2004 Accord EX-L if it had this
feature. What purpose does it serve? If you need your doors locked,
hit the button right before you put on your seatbelt.
Automatically locking doors ranks right up there with DRL's. I won't
buy a car with these pseudo-safety features.
As an aside, yes, wear my seatbelt (always have and always will) and
no, i do not support a seat belt law.
On 7/12/07 8:00 AM, in article email@example.com,
As far as I know, that is a American-mfr-only feature. Never encountered it
on any Japanese cars. Personally, I find it irritating and useless. I
would spend some time researching how to disable it if it showed up on any
of my cars.
My wife's 2001 Chrysler Sebring has auto locking doors to prevent
outside access, but one can always open the doors from the inside,
except the rear doors it the child proof setting is activated.
My mid 90s Chrysler has auto locking, but it needs to be activated by
I hadn't been in favor of the feature until a few years ago when car
jacking started becoming a problem.
On 7/14/2007 9:54 AM E Meyer spake these words of knowledge:
Having your door locked can help to ensure that your door does not open
when you did not intend it to.
This can be very useful in the event of a crash.
It can also be useful in a situation where others may open your door
when you did not intend to have it opened, such as when you are in heavy
traffic in NYC.
As a result of these simple facts, I lock my door every time I get in
it, with the same automatic repetitiveness as buckling my seatbelt. If
it were automatically done, it would save me having to do it. I fail to
see why or how it can be a problem, or why it should even be a question.
"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people
maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of
That advice is a generation or two out of date. Before the '60s there were
no significant standards for either door latches or door locks and door
locks could possibly improve door integrity in an accident. Since the
implementation of US NHTSA standards c. 1963 door locks were not relevant to
latch integrity. If you look at a lock in any car since the late 60s you
will see it only affects how the release levers actuate the latch and does
not affect the holding mechanism. In the NHTSA's study of Rollover
Mitigation http://tinyurl.com/2q9xc9 the report acknowledges the role of
door latches but not door locks in preventing partial ejection.
That is useful. You should always lock your doors when people present more
of a threat than traffic and terrain do. Otherwise, my take is that we are
somewhat safer with the doors unlocked. As a first-aider, I dread the
thought of coming across a car fire with entrapment and finding the doors
locked or jammed. I can deal with other problems better if I don't lose time
trying to establish an exit route. And it is important to remember that
central locking and unlocking depends on electricity. If anything has
happened in the accident to kill power (like the battery was destroyed on
impact) rear doors are going to stay closed until somebody can get to the
locks manually... and much longer than that if child locks are active.
You are entitled to your opinion. I'm just glad none of my cars have the
"feature." Doing it manually when you feel it is valuable makes sense,
having the car do it stupidly does not.
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:54:34 +0000, E Meyer wrote:
As some others have already explained some of the reasons, I'll just add
one more. I said in my original post that it was my daughter's car, she's
a college student, and it makes me feel safer knowing her doors are
locked, even if she doesn't always think to lock them (manually).
I suppose that could happen, but thinking like that, you had better not
even go out the front door of the house. You might get hit by a bus.
As for breaking into the car, it's not very difficult to break a window,
especially for well-equipped emergency personnel.
"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".
I am one of those pathetically prepared people who are always mindful of
such things. I am aware that I rarely carry anything that can break a car
window, although if I have no alternative I have a small pocketknife that
would have an outside chance if I hit hard enough near an edge. Tempered
glass is amazingly tough.
It is really only an issue in fires and potential fires, since the other
crisis - submersion - requires a window to be opened before a door can be
opened anyway. For other accidents it is almost always better to leave
everybody where they are and protect the scene until the pros get there.
Moving accident victims gives me the shivers.
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:27:36 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
On a recent Mythbusters episode, the crew thoroughly tested several
myths about submerged cars, windows, etc. Among other things they
found was that a power window unit continued to work for 45 minutes
after the door was submerged. That surprised me. One other
interesting thing they found was that those emergency hammer gadgets
you sometimes see advertised on cable that are supposed to break
windows actually work exactly as advertised. The hammer head is a
sharpened cone. Even under water, bashing the side window with one of
the things caused the window to disintegrate into little cubes of
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Those devices have actually been a normal tool for at least as long as I
have been working - back in the '70s when I had to do simple metalwork an
automatic center punch http://tinyurl.com/2ptt5x was indispensible. I don't
have one any more, though - I don't like metalwork!
As long as the battery isn't damaged the power windows (and locks, if the
controller hasn't wigged out) should continue to work for some time when
submerged. Even ocean water isn't a great conductor compared to the
admittance of a window motor.
Seems like a good idea to me, it was in the news some weeks back that a lady
and her kids drowned in their mini van after it rolled into a pond. Is it
true that the tip of a spark plug (electrode broken off I reckon) will do
the same thing? I've got enough old plugs, maybe I'll tie one to a piece of
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