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steve posted on September 4, 2010, 9:51 pm
Hi;
A few months ago I bought a 2010 Civic.
Last weekend someone who parked a minivan at the top of a hill
neglected to put his parking break on. The van rolled down hill and
smashed my car. He called the police and took responsibility for the
accident. I've been dealing his insurance company ever since.
The inspector for the insurance company has so far estimated that it
would take almost half the value of the car to repair the the body
damage and the snapped axle on the passenger side. The inspector is
going back for a second inspection to look for mechanical damage once
the car can be put on a lift.
I'm hoping that the car will be totaled because I am concerned that
there might be mechanical damage that might not get fixed and cause
problems over the long therm.
Do I have any options, with the insurance company, should they decide
not to total the car? I know I can always choose to sell it at a
loss after it is fixed and start over but I am wondering if there is a
better route?
The car is currently at the dealership I bought it from a few months
ago. I was thinking of making arrangements with the mechanics there
for them to take their own look. What sort of things should I ask
them to look for?
Thanks in advance for any info
Elmo P. Shagnasty posted on
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Whatever you do, make sure they compensate you for diminished value.
That's a serious hit you took, and they need to include the newly
diminished value of the car in their equations.
It could be that after the repairs PLUS incidentals like this, they
would rather total the car.
Gordon McGrew posted on
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On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:00:47 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
If they hesitate to total the vehicle, You need to make it clear that
you want a new car. You had essentially a new car before their insured
caused the accident. You expect to have (at least) an essentially new
car when the claim is settled. They should pay you the full sales
price (including tax, etc) minus a reasonable allowance for the miles
you drove it.
Clams posted on
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Gordon McGrew wrote:
Here, they don't reimburse the sales tax, but rather provide a
certificate for credit for the state sales taxes against a replacement
vehicle (if you buy one for the exact settlement price, no sales tax is
charged / if you buy one of increased value, you pay the sales tax on
the difference).
I "lucked" out where I bought at the end of one model year and then
bought the replacement (same model) in the next model year with added /
additional included options for only about a hundred dollars over the
depreciated value of my totaled car.
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wrote:
My '94 GSR was stolen last year and the insurance company settled for
a figure that specifically included sales tax. They offered it
without my even asking. Might vary state to state or company to
company.
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wrote:
That is why I am posting here.
The accident wasn't my fault. I'm not dealing with MY insurance
company, but the OTHER person's insurance company.
What can I do if they tell me "we are paying to fix the car and that
is it"?
Thanks in advance for any info
Steve
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You may be dealing with his insurance company, but it's him you have the
beef with.
Whatever his insurance doesn't cover, doesn't mean that he's not
responsible for it.
If he had the state-minimum $12,500 liability coverage, and you're out
$25,000, his insurance would cover max $12,500--and he's still out the
rest.
You may not elect to take what his insurance company is offering. The
laws vary from state to state; find an attorney you can sit down with to
evaluate your options.
Always remember: HE is responsible. Not his insurance company.
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steve wrote:
You likely don't need an attorney if there were no medical claims and
they are willing to settle as a full total. If not agreeable, then
it'll be time to at least threaten turning it over to someone more
knowledgeable than you on such claims. My guess is they will more than
glad come to terms if the damage is anywhere near totaling the car.
If they are fully at fault, attorney costs will be born by them - likely
adding up to more than the difference to total your car.
Grumpy AuContraire posted on
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steve wrote:
If they do that, get a lawyer.
You are entitled to be made "whole" regardless of the amount of damage.
You loss can include; a) Cost of fixing the car to a condition
equivalent before the accident, b) compensation to negate any loss of
value that may accompany a "salvage" etc., c) Compensation for the time
that the vehicle is out of service due to the accident (like car
rental). And there may be more issues to consider.
If they jerk you around, take like action...
JT
Dillon Pyron posted on
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Be very careful about the price they offer you. It will probably be
"blue book". But it will be trade in value. What you want them to do
is pay the depreciated value OR the dealer re-sale value. How much
would a couple month old Civic sell for? Well, right now it will
probably sell for close to MSRP.
Remember, insurance companies don't make money writing checks.
--
- dillon I am not invalid
Protect Texas game. Shoot a poacher.
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How would I find out what the diminished value is?
To be clear, I didn't cause the accident. I'm waiting on the OTHER
person's insurance company to take care of the situation, not my own.
What can I do if they tell me "we are only paying to fix the car,
tough luck"?
Thanks in advance for any info
Steve
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steve wrote:
Most likely, the repair(s) will be reported to carfax or other companies
like it. Believe me, the value of your car can quickly diminish to 50%
of current resale even after all repairs are made.
I assume that you have payments on the car and the insurance to go along
with it including collision, uninsured/under insured riders etc. You can
always file with your insurance company then let both companies slug it out.
Gone are the days when the damaged and liable parties could arrive at
settlement with a handshake. Get everything in writing and prepare a
full documentation of your losses. Be prepared and do your homework.
JT
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Courts have rather consistently ruled against this. Which is a
bullshit ruling, IMnsHO.
I had a very bad accident with my 89 CRX about 15 months after I
bought it. No fault (but that didn't stop GEICO from bumping my
rates). As the body shop progressed taking the car apart, they found
more and more wrong with it. Let's see, if you hit a Jersey barrier
at about 60 mph (30 degree angle then sideswipe for about 250 feet)
you might expect some frame damage. Actually lots of it. But they
"only" found this after they had replaced most of the left body and
the right front fender. It cost about $8800 to repair a car that cost
about $8800 new. But the insurance company was too committed to stop
and say "here's your check, please hand over the title."
--
- dillon I am not invalid
Protect Texas game. Shoot a poacher.
MM posted on
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On 9/8/10 9:00 AM, Dillon Pyron wrote:
> ...
I had the same experience with an 86 Taurus that my wife wrecked. They
decided to fix it rather than total it as I wanted. Once they got into
it they found more damage but were in too deep to change their minds.
The insurance paid out about $1500 more than the car was worth. The body
shop did a very nice job on it, tho. I think it drove better afterwards
than when new.
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Dillon Pyron wrote:
My brother had a wreck where the insurance company refused to total the
car. They ended up paying six months for a rental car while their
approved repair center attempted to obtain parts from overseas.
jim beam posted on
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On 09/04/2010 06:51 PM, steve wrote:
want a new car then bud? if being performed by a reputable shop with
modern laser-controlled alignment equipment, there's no reason a
repaired body shouldn't be just as straight, and in some cases
straighter, than new. broken mechanicals are completely not an issue
since they just get replaced.
if you truly don't like not having the ability to make your own
repair/trash decisions, only insure your vehicle third party. if you
insure comprehensive, the fine print on your contract allows the insurer
to make all the decisions, thus it's effectively not "your" vehicle any
more. how much does control really mean to you?
--
nomina rutrum rutrum
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How can I make sure this is the case? Ask the dealership ( it is my
dealership where I bought the car, has extensive repair facilities )
if they use modern laser controlled equipment? What else should I ask
them?
I apologize for not writing my original post clearly. I'm not
waiting on MY insurance company. The accident wasn't my fault. I'm
waiting on the insurance company of the person who caused the
accident.
If I don't get comprehensive insurance in the future, what is this
"insure the vehicale 3rd party" thing?
Thanks in advance for the info.
Steve
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steve wrote:
A similar thing happened to me several years ago when a drunk teenager
slammed in my three-month old, (legally) parked car. First estimate was
about 50% where they wanted to repair it. I met with the repair shop's
estimator and made it known that I really preferred it be totaled. He
commented that on older cars, owners many times prefer to keep estimates
below salvage value to keep the car running (many times still cheaper
than finding a suitable replacement). He "found" some additional
structural damage (slight bulge in the roof, etc. indicative of
additional potential structural damage) and managed to get it totaled,
as preferred.
Keep in mind that the appraised will likely be required by an insurance
company approved appraiser, but if connected with the dealership, he
might be more inclined to work with you if he senses you'll buy the
replacement from him (In my case it was a separate business).
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