I have not ever been outside the US (unless you count Canada), and,
yet, you did not answer a simple direct question.
Of course, I have never been to the moon, either, but there are things
I know about it, some through scientific fact, and others, simply
through common sense and reasoning.
My common sense tells me that if the government would truly lift
restrictions the Japanese people would buy a whole helluva lot more
than 12000 GM products a year.
And if they did not buy the American products, the Americans would
lose money, and quit selling there.
Best that I can tell, that scenerio has never happened, as the
Japanese people have never been given a real chance to buy American
Or, are you implying that "other countries requirments" might be
government, and not economically based????????
Just another fancy word for "restrictions."
If your knowledge of Japan rivals that of your knowledge of the moon,
then you know far less than you believe.
The restrictions are not there to prevent people from buying US made
cars. If US manufacturers want to sell cars in Japan, they can do so
by following the rules. Even what is considered "rural" in Japan
would not be recognizable as such in the US. It is a LOT of people on
an island, and they are packed very closely together. Cars need to be
small, and emissions need to be tightly controlled. US automakers do
not want to comply with those restrictions, so they don't get to sell
cars there in any large numbers.
That's pretty much exactly what has happened.
Sure they have. They can buy any American car with the steering wheel
on the right, a small width, and a low displacement engine. How many
of those does GM make?
Your idea of a fact is similar to what most people flush down the
toilet after $.99 burrito night...
Requirements are based in both government restrictions and economic
You don't know any fancy words...
Joe - Linux User #449481/Ubuntu User #19733
joe at hits - buffalo dot com
On 2/11/2010 11:53 PM Joe spake these words of knowledge:
Joe, you're wrong here. The restrictions were created, and are worded
very specifically, so that only local products can meet them.
Technically, imports could do so, but the cost would be considerably
more than it is worth. This is by design, and is not (or at least at
one point was not) disputed by the Japanese government.
They do the same thing for many food products, most particularly rice
In America, many government contracts are worded so that only the
desired vendor can meet the requirements. That's how it's done (of
course, not always).
Don't get me wrong; I'm not a japan-basher, and I recognize the
decades-long superiority of Japanese cars in most respects. I think if
the import restrictions were lifted, the Japanese would buy a lot more
than 12,000 American cars - but not a very significant percentage. Even
120,000 would be a very small percentage.
But the specifications required to be met to sell a car in Japan are
certainly very carefully and purposefully written to exclude foreign
Love means never having to say, "Put down that chainsaw".
how does that explain how the japanese out-sell us by significant margin
in global markets? [rhetorical - it doesn't].
fact is, joe is right - we don't /want/ to sell in the japanese market
because we don't want to make small efficient r/h drive cars that would
sell there! any comment to the contrary is either political posturing,
or the repetition of same by some gull that doesn't get it.
Maybe, buy just not naive. There are a million ways a government can
impose restrictions on items being imported into their country, making
it nearly impossible for the item to be sold in the country, but, it
would still, "legal" to sell the item in that country.
And we are both using generalizations regarding the Japanese.
On one hand, you are saying they WILL NOT buy our products, because
gas is expensive. Others who have posted here say our cars are too
large. Others have said the Japanese simply would not want to buy our
product because it is inferior.
My Generalization is based on a little common sense.
Many Japanese people have embraced a Western civilization lifestyle.
They like jeans, pop music. McDonalds, and baseball, along with a lot
of other things we have to offer. It goes to reason they would also
like some of the cars, just like millions of Americans like the cars
THEY have to offer. Not real hard to understand. Yet, we buy MILLIONS
of their vehciles, and they buy only 12000 of our cars. Something just
isn't right here.
And, BTW, not all of Japan is located in Toyko. Some people live out
in the country, where they would be able to own and drive a big
American vechicle. A lot of people there also have money, so, high gas
prices wouldn't necessarly, be an issue. Besides, if that were the
case, there would be NO Toyota type vehicles, such as a Camry,
Corolla, or one of their pick up truck lines sold there. The Japanese
simply would not be able to afford to drive them. Those vechicles get,
on average WORSE gas mileage than comperable American vehicles. It
goes without saying that if, in a TRUE free trade system, a Chevy
Malibu, which is of higher quality and gets better gas mileage, would
sell in Japan if a Camry sells there. Or, are you saying they don't
sell Camry's there?
to Google for "Driving in Japan" to see the restrictions, which you
obviously haven't. If there were the protectionism that imagine, how
do you think (I know you don't, but that's a separate point) 12000 cars
a year get in?
wow, either amazing stupidity or clinical delusion. does the nurse let
you play on the interweb very often junior? because s/he probably
should be protecting you from too much reality if you can't cope with it.
Higher quality Malibu over a Camry? Wow, that is truly delusional. You
must actually believe those sad GM commercials.
The reason that right-hand drive Malibus are not being produced for the
Japanese market is that the Japanese people would not buy that POS
vehicle, at least not in any quantity, and the decision-makers at GM
You're starting to become unraveled. By all accounts, the Malibu is a
better vehicle than the Camry, and it really ain't even close.
Try to stay with us who live in the real world.
The Malibu gets better gas mileage.
Even Consumer reports, who has slammed GM vehicles for decades, calls
this a 'world-class car'.
And it even stops when you want it to.
And the accelerator doesn't stick wide open.
Yeah, it is a MUCH better car.
But hell, my 06 GP is a much better car than the Camry if you compare
Better gas mileage, better handling, roomier, fewer recalls, safer,
better looking (ok, the last part IS biased on my part).
Pretty factual statement on your part, huh?
Converting a Malibu to right hand would not be a hard task.
The Japanese government will not allow these cars to compete, at least
on a level playing field, with the Camry in their own country.
Open the market, without any strings attached, and see what happens.
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