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well, now THAT'S a completely different question.
I strongly suspect it's because of our national motto, "more is better".

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On 03/23/2012 06:38 PM, Tegger wrote:

really? i just plowed through this turgid drivel
<https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2011/01/19/2011-547/federal-motor-vehicle-safety-standards-ejection-mitigation-phase-in-reporting-requirements#h-72
and can't find any such dictate. where do you get your information? can you post a cite?

there's nothing saying they have to be thicker. they just have to be stronger. and of course they have to be even stronger than before to withstand the weight of an even heavier car than before.
but getting back to the stronger point, have you ever looked at the windshield pillar on a convertible? did you know that that pillar has to be strong enough to support the whole car, and that to do so without additional connected structures such as the roof, requires more strength than the pillars on a conventional sedan? with those key points in mind, have you ever asked yourself why the convertible's pillar is still the same size as the sedan????
iow, you're just making this stuff up tegger. there is nothing in the regs dictating pillar size, simply strength. and increased strength, as evidenced by convertible versions of sedans, shows it can be done without bloat.

seriously tegger, where do you get this stuff?

myth, propaganda, b.s.

it's got nothing to do with "activists", and everything to do with oil companies fighting to increase vehicle weights to keep gasoline consumption up as engines become more efficient. perhaps if you weren't so blinded by your irrational hatreds of anything to do with u.s. regulatory environments*, you'd be able to actually see, and comment on, reality.
* something i have to say is bizarre for someone who doesn't even live here.
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JRStern wrote:

<snicker>
Let's see... The Volt cost $45K and has a 40 mile range
The Nissan Leaf cost $35K and has a 100 mile range
Hmmmmmmmm
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absolutely. But for usefulness, both the Prius and the Volt are way more suited to everyday life than the Leaf could ever hope to be.
Also, isn't the *base* Prius significantly less than that?
My '07 base (as in, so base the dealers didn't carry that model) was something like $22K. Surely, it hasn't gone up that much since.
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On 03/25/2012 03:52 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

here in kalifornistan, particularly the bay area, there's not a lot of competition. and the prius is extremely popular. neither work for good pricing.
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The bay area is a world unto itself.
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That may be.
In which case, the Volt is *still* superior--because the majority of American drivers drive less than 40 miles per day, but some days do significantly more and want/need the flexibility to beyond that hundred miles.
It doesn't make sense to have a specialty vehicle, like a $40K scooter, to do a narrow range of things.
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On 03/28/2012 06:10 PM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

and there you have it. in a nutshell.
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