Look at one of my posts to jim beam. I posted what I found from the Honda
owner's manual, and from a Highlander. The Honda's didn't really say a
lot, the Highlander did say not to drive the car at any one speed for a
period of time.
What's so much different? Still iron block and aluminum heads with steel
pistons and rings.
And everyone keeps throwing 'closer tolerances' at me. I would think it
would be MORE important to take it easy the first couple thousand miles if
walls are thinner, etc.
On Mon, 12 May 2008 19:19:26 -0700, jim beam wrote:
Gee, I don't know. Why do you suppose the Highlander's manual said to
avoid at any one constant speed for an extended distance?
Explain that one, Genius.
I was answering in the Toyota group. It was crossposted. But, since
aluminum is a much softer metal, I think I'd want to take a little care
during the first thousand miles or so.
Gee, I dunno. Perhaps excessive wear caused by someone not being careful
during break in would cause irrepairable damage, for example?
Thinner walls means replacing the block rather than boring and honing.
Speaking of boring...
that's as logical as saying that because you've never found an elephant
in your fridge, that elephants don't like butter.
high mileage survival is not a function of your, er, "departure" from
the service schedule - hondas and toyotas ROUTINELY get 300k+ miles on a
motor, no re-bores. all that 240k proves is that [because of good
production and engineering] it has survived in spite of your behavior,
not because of it.
On Wed, 14 May 2008 20:49:58 -0700, jim beam wrote:
Bite me. I know plenty. I have 3 20 year old cars here that run like
Maintenance is a wonderful thing. I sure hope the OP left long before you
started your spew. If he listens to you he'll probably be scrapping the
car at 50,000 miles.
I've seen people do the "Break it in like you're going to drive it" crap
and have to do some pretty major repairs, not only to the engines, but to
the transmissions, too. Oh, and I change my trans oil (Manual) every
60,000 miles, too. The manual says it's good for the life of the car. No
Oh, hey, did I ever mention, one of the cars that went over 225,000 miles
was an auto. The rest were 5 speeds, and ya know what? They did it on the
original clutches. Never replaced a U-Joint, either, and I certainly don't
drive them like Grandpa. I own fast cars cause I like to drive FAST.
On Thu, 15 May 2008 06:22:58 -0400, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
They told my friend that when he bought his new Camaro. He bought it three
days after I bought my new Corolla. He traded the car after 3.5 years with
all kinds of trouble. I kept my Corolla for 6 years and got a new Corolla.
That was 22 years ago, and I still have the replacement, and it still
runs, and it still doesn't burn any oil.
What does it take to convince you Three Stooges?
Question: would the sludge-filled Toyota engines have benefited from 3K
changes vs. 5K or 7.5K changes?
The fact is, the carmakers put out products of sometimes questionable
quality. The Toyota sludging engines are an example. We, the
consumers, won't know this until it's too late.
3K changes are insurance against that.
the /correct/ insurance against that is opening the oil filler cap and
looking inside once in a while. you should do that anyway when checking
for fluid levels, leaks, etc., as with many cars, it's where you'll see
first signs of head gasket leakage.
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