actually, you said:
"I drive a car 1500 miles and then do the first oil change".
then, just to make sure it wasn't a typo or that you were mistaken the
first time, you said:
"I would still take it pretty easy for the first 1500 miles, and stop
and have the oil changed".
so you said to change it after 1500 miles. twice. not 3000 miles.
an imbecile is one who not only doesn't now what they're talking about,
but doesn't have the balls to admit it when caught, or worse, tries to
b.s. their way out of it. you sir, are the imbecile.
Plus, it's a very bad idea to change your oil that soon. Some dealers
put signs up in their service areas warning customers not too change the
oil on new cars too soon.
Again, follow the manual. Too much maintenance can be as bad as too little.
On Thu, 15 May 2008 19:59:31 -0700, jim beam wrote:
Hmmmm...when have I been 'caught'?
Who, other thatn you, says it's bad to change the oil after 1,500 miles?
I've had Service Managers tell me to do this. I think someone who works
for the dealership knows better than someone who names himself after
Why am I wrong? Who says I'm wrong? You? jim moonbat?
You said you change your oil every 5,000 miles. The manual says 7,500. You
must be an idiot for changing your oil so often.
Shut up while you're ahead, dipshit.
It's not insurance. In fact, you risk getting a faulty filter, not
tightening the drain plug properly, etc. Plus, it is a waste of money.
And, the oil filter has tiny holes in the filter media such that during
the first several miles, the oil filter doesn't filter out small
particualrs so well.
i say that, given that i can't be bothered to do the tribology myself,
but as someone that has done analysis on engine wear, reading the
freakin' book is the way to go. not too hard. unless you can't read.
or get past the first paragraph of "blather".
On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:01:32 -0700, jim beam wrote:
Let's add something else. On the 10,000 mile service for my last new car,
the S.M. had them drill points on the suspension and add Zerk fittings.
Tha factory said the suspension was lubed for the life of the car. Why do
you suppose the S.M. did that, at no charge?
it's called "profit". drilling a grease nipple into a joint /after/
assembly damages the joint and contaminates it. thus reducing life.
and each subsequent grease injection can introduce more contamination too.
so, as a one-man profit center, you're an unscrupulous service manager's
dream. that's not "no charge".
On Sun, 18 May 2008 10:16:29 -0700, jim beam wrote:
As the drill turns, since you're drilling from the bottom, the havings
fall away. Those that don't get driven out when fresh grease is installed.
The fittings were put in in 1986. The car was being driven until 2003. No
damage to rack and pinion, and still on original ball joints wher the
grease fittings were added.
I guess that *really* paid off for them, eh?
wrong. as you break through, shavings get pushed in. grease on top of
that pushes them further, as well as any grit that's in the gun.
so you say. but the fact is, unless the boots are damaged, these things
typically last 300k+, with no intervention.
1. they clearly don't know what they're doing.
2. contamination is a fact. deal with it. contamination causes early
failure. if yours haven't yet, it's good engineering, and certainly not
/because/ of this stupidity.
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