You would have saved a lot of trouble, if you would have said, in my
opinion, I think, or I believe, anything that would indicated it was your
opinion rather than expecting anybody to believe that you actually know that
most people do not need SUVs. That was why I asked the question how do you
know most people do not need SUVs? ;)
My niece and her husband have only one child. They have a SUV. If you saw
them in their SUV, it would be easy to assume that they should own a car
or mini-van instead of the SUV. However, their home is located about one
mile from the state road. They have to drive on a dirt road and across a
bridge in order to get to their home. In the winter and during rain
storms--the dirt road becomes muddy and the bridge becomes very slick. You
should NOT assume that SUV's are not really needed by many who have them.
I am certain that MOST of the people that own SUVs have excellent reasons
for owning an SUV instead of a van or car. This is NOT a communist
country. People have rights to buy almost any type of vehicle they want to
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I would not assume anything, I agree, the buyer is the only one who know
what the need. That is why I asked the question, 'how do you know the do
not need them' when the post said, >>> I'm saying that SUV's are not really
needed by many who have them ...? ;)
If you actually read what I wrote, you might (but maybe not) see
that I not only stated very early that it was my opinion, but a bit
later in the thread I also explained how I formed my opinion. If
you did that, maybe you'd stop asking the same question repeatedly
that I have answered repeatedly.
I thought one reason for posting here was to state and discuss
opinions -- as long as they are not stated as fact.
I didn't say they couldn't buy whatever they want to for whatever
reasons they can come up with. I stated my opinion. You seem to
disagree. That's fine, you're entitled to your opinion just like I
am. But please don't bring up Communism.
Well put. I said essentially the same thing recently to a liberal
friend who was off and running on the standard lefty rant against
people who drive SUVs.
My only beef with SUVs is practical, not political: it's that I
can't see around the goddam things. That being said, it's far
more meaningful to me that people here in America have the right
to buy and drive whatever they want, and can afford, to buy and
drive. Don't like SUVs? Then don't buy one.
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On 25 Apr 2006 06:36:12 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org (Geoff Miller)
Really? People have a right to drive whatever they want? I guess I
missed that in the Constitution.
Here is a fact for you. You absolutely do not have a right to drive
whatever you want. In fact, you don't have a right to drive anything
on the public roads. You may qualify for the privilege of driving
legal vehicles on the roads in conformity with all laws and
restrictions. Once so qualified, you may purchase and any vehicle you
are licensed to drive which is legal for use on public roads, subject
to many restrictions. For example, you are not be allowed to operate
a heavy truck on many roads. On some roads, you can not operate a
So what is the argument about? It is about what (not whether)
restrictions should apply to the size and construction of passenger
vehicles and how we will permit them to be operated on public roads.
Now that we have established that you do not have a right to drive
anything you want, we can discuss what you should be allowed to drive
and under what circumstances and qualifications.
Unfortunately, the collective decision of million of people to replace
cars with SUVs has adverse effects on highway safety, pollution,
traffic congestion and fuel costs for everyone. That is why there are
restrictions on what you can drive on public roads.
Well said, you can't drive a lawn tractor down the interstate can
you? A texas driver with a class c (standard) licence can not
legally purchase a class a (commerical semi) vehicle nor operate
such vehcile on public roads.
Perhaps, but w can still buy one of they want. The government call not
controll what vehicles buyers choose to buy. They can requlate what we buy
via a perversion of the Commerce clause but not what we buy, as long as it
meets of the current regualtions, The environuts have tried for years to
dictate what we buy againe with more perversions of the Commerce clause like
setting fuel and safety standards, but they have yet to ontroll what we buy.
They would love to do so, sort of like the former USSR
Unfortunately, the collective decision of million of people to
If you could only read, people have the right to BUY whatever they want.
Jason said, and I quote " People have the right to buy almost any vehicle
they want ". You do not need, last time I checked, a license to buy a
vehicle. Obviously if they are driving, they have obtained the proper
certification to do so, therefore they can drive any vehicle they want in
their certified class.
I'm not sure even that is true, but clearly we are not talking about
your right to buy a golf cart and drive it around on your own
property. We are talking about what you can operate on the public
In other words, you can drive whatever they let you drive. A vehicle
twice as wide as a Hummer could not be operated on any road without
special permits. There is a maximum permitted width for vehicles
which varies with the particular road on which you intend to operate
it. Setting that limit is a matter of public policy reflecting the
physical realities of road configurations and the safety margins which
are deemed appropriate. There is nothing stopping State or local
government from passing a law limiting the use of residential roads to
vehicles of a width one inch narrower than a Hummer. There has to be
some limit and where does it say in the Constitution that the limit
has to be wider than a Hummer, or even an Explorer?
How many Hummers would they sell if you couldn't drive it within three
blocks of your house?
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