I have a 1994 Honda Accord EX sedan with 98,000 miles on it. I have owned
it since it was new. I am going to replace the timing belt and water pump
(both for the first time) and have been getting estimates from local shops.
The estimates to do this work have varied widely, and I do understand and
appreciate the concept that work done by a quality shop may cost me more
Having said all that, can anyone give me an idea as to what a reasonable
estimate for this work would be so I have something to go by? If it
matters, I live in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area. Thank you in advance.
Whichever shop you use, make sure that they are using OE parts and Honda's
antifreeze. Some shops will try to up their profit by using cheap parts.
These either don't fit well or don't last like OE. Another variable is
which parts are replaced. For example, some shops will replace the
tensioner bearings as well as the cam, crank, balance shaft, and valve cover
seals. Other shops will just replace the timing belt and water pump and
leave the rest alone. The merits, or lack thereof, of either approach have
already been thoroughly discussed on this group. Search through the old
posts at http://groups.google.com
$700 is way to much to pay for that. you can actually do it yourself and
save all that. there are also very good shops that will charge alot less
than that and still do the job right. you can buy the parts yourself and pay
them for the labor. i would look for one of those.
with belt, plus, water pump, Thermostat, and all belts and hoses.
I'll spend about $160.00 for the parts, and got them for two of my most
recent cars at the Central Auto Parts store, Aloma Avenue (SR426),
Goldenrod, near my home in Casselberry, Seminole County, Florida.
They sold me a $111.00 kit of tensioner and timing belt. Had the
It is North of Orlando, the megapolis that is an octopus in Orange
County. I know, TMI... But, the local Honda dealers charge around $600
just to do the tensioner, belt and Water Pump. That includes
antifreeze. I trust Courtesy Honda absolutely, if I want to spend the
$600 and let them do it.
But, I have been a mechanic and also have worked on the line, since 1964
(20+years in the USAF). So, I already have both; the tools, and the
'feel' for working on machines.
I use genuine antifreeze and cut it myself. All A/F is supposed to meet
Federal specifications, and be interchangeable. Never had a problem
with Prestone or any other I have mixed. The only fluid I DO insist to
use from Honda is the Power Steering Lubricant!
But, I was born in St. Paul, in 1946. Relatives report similar pricing
The job takes me about 8 hours, with lots of coffee breaks. Biggest
part of the work is removing the crank bolt! Honda uses Anaerobic Thread
locking compound. You might know it as Lock Tite. The crank bolt is
then torqued to about 360 Foot/Pounds of torque.
The cause of the ungodly tight bolt is still controversial - there isn't any
sign of lock-tite on the threads when I've looked - but there is no doubt
the bolt is way tighter than it needs to be. A Big Honkin' Mama impact
driver is indispensible. Accept no substitutes, like the Wimpy Slacker Dude
socket wrench ;-)
That's interesting. The factory service manual for my Civic specs 119
ft-lbs for the torque on the crank pulley bolt. It also states that engine
oil should be used on the threads. Moreover, in all of the years that I
worked on Hondas, I've never come across any trace of Loctite on the
Hey, thanks for all the responses to my original post!
I had my timing belt and water pump replaced last week. They quoted me $600
for this and then added another $20 for a "drive belt" they said I needed
once they got in there.
I ended up getting a 10% discount for being a long time customer so my total
for all this came to $560 including tax.
I feel better now that I've had it done.
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