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Are there any ideas out there on how one might increase the front leg room (driver side) for a Honda Fit?
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jhi wrote:

Take out the driver's seat and drive sitting in the back seat...
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A buddy of mine in high school had a '72 CVCC, and did exactly that. He could fit three in the car (barely...), him on the driver side, and two on the passenger side, one in front, one in back.
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You sure you don't mean '75? The CVCC didn't appear until then. I remember the big hullabaloo CVCC made back then.

Hmmm. Having actually driven a '73 Civic (the first year sold in Canada), I can attest to several things:
1) the pedals are offset to the right relative to the steering wheel; 2) the steering wheel itself is tilted slightly to the right; 3) the rear seat holds two, if they are very very small or are willing to sit with their legs on an angle (much like a '70's Camaro...); 4) the shifter is rubbery and vague; 5) the car is tiny, not like the BMC Mini, but pretty close; 6) the interior is very black in a cheap, shiny, vinyl-y sort of way; 7) the car is slow and buzzy, but paradoxically has lots of torque steer.
Way back...way back when...I drove a Civic and I drove a Corolla. I bought the Corolla. The Civic was not impressive. At the time, the Corolla seemed more like a /real/ car. At least the Corolla had an actual trunk that held a reasonable number of actual grocery bags.
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We called it a CVCC, because it said "Honda" and "CVCC" on the back. It had the air cooled motorcycle "V2" (as we called it) engine. The shifter came out of the dash, and you could take the keys out of the ignition while the car was on (which was REALLY weird the first time my friend did it).
Searching around, maybe it was a Z600 - can't find a picture of the back end of one I can see well enough to be sure, though.
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An "N600" maybe?
http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/honda600.jpg
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Maybe - I remember a hatchback, more than that "trunk." From what I could find today, the Z600 was a hatchback of the N600.
But the front end picture is dead on. Except that one actually has some shine to the paint...
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How about removing the seat and installing a flat piece of metal on each side where the seat would normally bolt down. Drill the necessary holes in it farther back and bolting the seat to that. Either that, or drive bare foot.
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I had the same idea Forrest. On the drivers left there would be no problem because the seat sits on posts. On the right however, the rail itself is bolted to the floor, therefore I'd have to drill into the metal and the floor to allow for room for the bolts. What do you think? Thanks.

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Well, not knowing exactly what it looks like, it's hard to say. Could you not, bolt the rail to the piece of metal with the bolt heads on the bottom, nuts on top. Then drill new holes through both the metal and the rail, the correct distance apart, to be able to bolt down into the existing floor nut/receptacles ..... (where they are now bolted down to). I guess if you did that, you would probably want to use another nut under each bolt, between the metal strip and the floor, so as to keep things level and not bend it where it bolts to the floor. As I said, I don't know what it really looks like, so I'm just taking a shot in the dark.
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jhi wrote:

i think you need to pull back the carpet and see what the mounting points are really like - they're not simply holes in the floor. on my hondas, they're specially reinforced and designed to mitigate fatigue, including inserts inside the stiffening boxes that go under the car. if you move the seat rails, you have a whole load of work to do to retain oem quality, and it'll be /real/ expensive since you don't have access to a lot of this stuff as the chassis is welded together /after/ the inserts are positioned.
as a tall person myself, the best solution is to either wear thin-soled shoes for driving, or buy a crx. while not huge on head room, the leg room on the crx is crazy - it's too much for me, and i have a 35" inseam.

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snipped-for-privacy@bad.example.net says...

I'm 6'2", and I can't count how many times someone's expressed surprise that I can fit comfortably in a CRX. I'm not sure just how tall someone would have to be to use up the available leg room in one, but it's quite a bit more than I'll ever need.
Wish I could say the same for an S2000 - I can just barely fit in one with the seat all the way back, but I've never tried it with the top up. And in my Alfa-owning days, I used to lust after a GTA, until I tried to squeeze into one and realized that the only way I'd ever actually drive it was if I could manage to get comfortable with the steering wheel wedged tightly against the tops of my thighs.
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Just be advised and aware that ANY of these seat relocation methods will very likely void any of the manufacturer's liability for the proper performance of safety systems. In addition, any mounting should be done with the proper hardware with adequate load distributing backing plates.
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Hmmm, I believe the seat does slide back and forth..... ;-)
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