Until you're involved with a FATAL accident first, you'll learn Hybrid Isn't worth.

Michelle doesn't own a one-ton hybrid. You're off my a full 50%, and if you're that wrong on something as simple as the weight of a car, why should we believe any damn thing you tell us?

Did you bother to even read any of these? Some are cases where there were fatalities in other vehicles but not the Prius. One of these involved a Jeep Laredo and a Honda Pilot SUV - the only reason your search turned it up is that Prius is mentioned in another unrelated item on the same page. One says a Prius driver was injured because he wasn't wearing his seat belt. One mentions a fatality due an earthquake, another mentions a fatality from a plane crash.

Keep on demonstrating you're an idiot; I'm sure that's good publicity for your business.

"GasSaver" wrote in news:4vGdnYMZXZwGdGzUnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@posted.toastnet:

Why single out the Prius? The market is full of cars in the Prius/Yaris's size class.

And are you telling me your 4,000 pound car gets 150mpg?

He's just doing what he's good at.

I never said any such thing; please stop lying about me.

Too bad you didn't read the articles linked in that blog you copied; by not bothering to read them, you merely established even further that you don't know what you're talking about. But then again, neither did the person who posted that entry in the first place.

Well, if his goal is to become a laughing stock around the world, he's succeeding admirably. If his goal is trying to get business, well, perhaps he should try a different strategy.

I wonder what car he thinks you have anyway. The Prius is close to 3000 lbs.

What makes you think that he thinks?

What makes you think I think he thinks? Let's change that to: "I wonder what car he believes you have anyway."

The Prius is not in the class of the Yaris. It is between a Corolla and a Camry.

"Tomes" wrote in news:gt5tuv$t4m$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org:

It's based on the Yaris platform.

maybe, but man oh man, is the Prius big inside.

Not only that, it turns on a dime and gives eight cents' change.

Toyota done good with the Prius.

For the record, I drove in my Prius last week over to my Honda dealer, where I drove an Insight. Honda shamelessly copied the entire Prius concept, right down to the CRX-like backlight and the electric-operated hatch release.

However, the Insight was noticeably not as comfortable as the Prius. It was lower down and that much harder to ingress/egress (Honda loves low cars, and that will bite them in the ass as the bulk of the baby boomers come of retirement age), and the NON-ADUSTABLE headrest actively shoved my head forward--which was an absolute deal-killer. It was the most uncomfortable driving position I can ever remember in ANY car, and absolutely shameful in a Honda.

The back seat was noticeably smaller than the Prius as well. I know that was OK back when Honda thought they would sell at a price significantly less than the Prius, but that won't happen now--and the smaller car with lower fuel economy is not a good thing.

I got back into the Prius and it was like getting back into an old pair of comfortable shoes, or your favorite recliner--it just fit. In fact, getting back into my Prius reminded me of when I first got into the 92 Civic Si on the showroom floor--"ah, this is home, it feels exactly like it should". I bought that Si on the spot. I *know* that Honda knows how to do it; what's shameful is that they didn't do it on the Insight.

I have an 07 base Prius--the model that you can't get off a dealer's lot, the one that has to be ordered because it's as base as a Prius gets and no dealer orders them that way. I am perfectly happy with that car and its level of equipment. Toyota's current plan is to sell the "Prius I", I presume equipped minimally like mine, to fight the Insight at roughly the Insight price.

If Toyota follows through and sells such a car at the same price as the Insight, either Toyota will decimate Insight sales or else the Insight will end up selling for significantly less than what Honda planned.

Dear Honda: shame, shame, SHAME on you for the Insight.

You have got to be kidding. My daughter, who was used to driving her '97 Infiniti i30t got a Prius rental one time. The first tight curve she encountered it almost flew off the road. Wallowed like a '60 Cadillac. Worst handling I've seen in a small car. If you think the Prius turns on a dime, you must be used to Mack trucks.

All too true. I've never driven a vehicle of that size that handled worse than my sister-in-law's Prius.

You should drive my Explorer. My Prius handles much better than it does.

I couldn't help but notice that both you and Meyer refer to cars you neither own nor drive regularily. As with any car, it takes a few miles and a few curves to adjust.

Yikes. These handling complaints seem very abnormal. I have never seen a handling problem with any of the Prius cars I have driven. I'd suspect the tires were under-inflated

An over-inflated ego will do it too, especially taking a curve too fast.

My suspicions are more focused on the veracity of the reporters than on the reports.

That truly depends on one's driving skills.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mara100-84.onlink.net:

That was quite deliberate. Honda's marketing people had a bit of egg on their faces as a consequence of the original Insight's "bad-science-fiction-movie" looks and 2-seater capacity.

Every time I see an original Insight, I'm reminded of Woody Allen's "Sleeper".

Honda, as a matter of principle, has designed and priced the new Insight to take on the Prius head-to-head.

Unfortunately, you can't get blood from a stone -- and the Prius is a very expensively-built stone -- so a lot of corner-cutting had to be done to get the Insight below the Prius in price but still allow Honda something less than a bloodbath at P&L time.

Check out the Insight's interior next time you're in a Honda dealership; it's about as well-built as a 1987 Lada.

Toyota originally just barely broke even on the Prius (provided you didn't count development costs). I suspect they're losing their shirts now, as will Honda with the new Insight.

Hybrids are an awfully expensive way to save money on gas. They never made sense at all. You can tell they never made sense: Nobody's buying them any more.

Roll back "safety" regulations back to what they were in 1988, and you could have another Civic HF: Better mileage than the Prius, at a /much/ lower cost.