I have had the worst luck with my 03 Tiburon ever since I bought it. I
bought it pre-owned and discovered that the warranty doesn't cover
much. I had to replace the clutch and flywheel shortly after purchase.
I went with aftermarket parts. 2 months later I had to replace the
transmission due to damage from the original clutch failure. Now the
car will not crank once again, to me and others who have heard the car
it sounds like the starter... but after going through 3 different
starters from Advance and AutoZone but the problem persist. One you
turn the ignition it sounds like the engine wants to turn over but the
bendix drive is not catching the flywheel.. I am out of options and
forced to once again tow this car back to the dealership. Any ideas on
what could be wrong before I shell out more money with the dealer?
need to read the law suite abot the cluth problem you had and the starter
some parts has to be oem parts to work i would get one from napa i had
trouble with parts from autozone and advance napas are better parts
I have one of those Auto Zone starters on my Elantra I have changed it 4
times. One thing, MAKE sure the battery cables are tight I had to shim
the post straps Have someone check for 12 Volts on the solinoid (small
wire) when you try & start it
Many dealers do a great job and are a good place to take your car. Dealers
are almost always the most expensive alternative though. Equally, there are
many more good, knowledgeable and reliable independents in any given area
than there are good dealer shops and they are significantly cheaper.
Finally, there is a world of us who do our own repairs - the cheapest of all
alternatives. Most of us fix it right the first time too.
Even dealers suffer from "bugs" that elude a quick and proper repair. It's
not a function of buying aftermarket parts or using other than dealer
service techs. The aftermarket is a very advanced part of the automotive
parts supply chain, many times offering parts that are superior in every way
to the OEM parts.
So, in answer to your question - there are many reasons not to go to the
dealer. For those who take a confidence in the dealer, then great - go
there. For others, there's a ton of very valid reasons not to go to the
I don't know what the Hyundai dealer is as I haven't paid for any work
there yet, but the local Chrysler dealer was something like $55/hour and
the one independent that I used a year ago was $50 and the work wasn't
all that impressive. I've actually had better luck with the dealers
than with the independents for the most part. I almost never use
independents anymore. I tried one last year that was well recommended,
but I felt they charged more hours for the same job as compared to the
dealer so the lower rate was offset by more time.
I know lots of folks rag on dealers, but I've actually had good luck
with the local Chrysler and Chevy dealerships and, so far, with Hyundai.
Although, as I said, what little work I've had at Hyundai so far was
all warranty recall tidbits. I did get an estimate from them when my
Sonata was rear-ended by a drunk driver recently, and they came in much
less than what the insurance adjuster estimated for the repair, which I
thought was surprising.
Ragging on dealers is one thing I try not to do. I've had great
relationships with my local car dealers for a long time. Generally I only
use them for parts when I want OEM and not aftermarket, and very seldom ever
take a car in for service. But - I do get advice from the mechanics and
have seldom found them to be simple parts changers, or otherwise less than a
full fledged mechanic. I've taken a couple of stands against those who jump
to the statement that the dealer is going to screw them. I'm just shocked
to hear what pricing is like for you guys. Not at all reflective of my neck
of the woods.
Maybe custom shops, but it's extremely difficult to believe a dealer with
all of his overhead is cheaper than a standard independent garage. What are
the rates for your Acura, Toyota and Hyundai dealers? What part of the
country are you in?
At most dealerships, the body shop rate is nearly equal to the shop rate of
a good independent garage. The service floor is typically twice the body
All dealers charge between $74 and $79/hour (and the Acura dealer is not
more expensive that the Hyundai dealer). The independant shops in my area
charge $79/hour or more. In the long run, I find that having my cars
serviced by the dealer isn't necessarily more expensive than having them
serviced by independants. In addition, all three dealerships offer shuttle
service, but Hyundai does not pick you up at the end of the day or whenever
your car is ready.
I live in Gatineau, near Ottawa.
Well for those kinds of rates, I'd be using the dealer as well! That's a
great way to build a relationship as long as you're not going to do the work
yourself. I'm really surprised at the replies indicating the independents
in different areas that are getting what the dealers get. Near me the
dealers get between $60 - $90 for the service bays and the independents get
around $40. If you're not doing your own work, a good independent is a much
better choice around here.
Thanks for the informed reply.
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