I rent cars about every 1.5 weeks and drive about 1000 miles each time.
I've found the electronic mpg meter to be fairly accurate on
all cars that I rent, usually within 1 mpg compared to
writing down mileage and computing.
The best average I've been able to do in an Elantra (April 2014)
was 33.7 mpg. Mileage depends on how and where you drive.
I always check tires, air cleaner, fluids, etc. before starting off.
It's great to see that the automatics have improved to this extent.
They even allow for manual override for those who still want to move a
stick around. I don't see any advantage to the manual anymore, except
perhaps to save some money at the initial purchase.
On Saturday, June 7, 2014 5:36:47 AM UTC-10, Victek wrote:
Manuals are kind of a drag. I tried out a Suzuki Aerio with a manual and my
left leg started cramping up half-way through the drive i.e., I'm getting
too old for this shit.
My Passat has a 5-speed automatic that shifts into high gear as soon as it
can. It's well suited to my driving style. There is a manual mode but with
a 1.8L four in a 3700 lb car, it's not so much fun. My Sonata was a lot mor
e fun with the automatic in manual mode. That's pretty much what 240 HP wil
l do for you.
Few more factors for me:
- Lower maintenance cost/higher reliability of manual transmission.
- Rentals in much of the world are still cheaper if manual, so by buying
stick only I ensure that all of my family can drive any car anywhere in
- Maybe it's just me but I am definitely less "engaged" driving automatics,
bordering on being sleepy and losing attention.
True on the lower maintenance, but in 50 years of driving I've had one
automatic go bad but have replaced a couple of clutches and a synchronizer.
Agree on knowing how as you point out other countries are mostly stick.
Only time I'd feel sleepy is cruising on the highway in high gear where
shifting would be rare anyway. I do like driving a stick once in a
while, but not all the time. PITA in heavy traffic.
I haven't replaced a clutch yet in 40 years of driving standard shift
cars and trucks. Then again, I rarely go past 150,000 miles before the
PA rust gets to my vehicles. My current pickup is a 1994 Chevy with
147,000 miles including 13 winters of plowing snow and it is still going
strong on the original clutch.
I know people who can wear out a clutch in 30,000 miles. That is why
most American cars are automatics - most Americans can't use a clutch
I've never had problems with automatics. I've had to replace the clutch
assemblies on 4 of my cars. I would never call them low maintenance.
I'm just waiting around for self-driving cars so I can fit some nappy
time in. Boy, that would be wonderful!
On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 7:56:17 PM UTC-4, DK wrote:
I don't think the lower maintenance cost is true any more. Most automatics
have fluid designed to last 100,000 miles or the life of the vehicle. At
the same time, clutches are becoming more and more expensive. I've seen cl
utch replacement prices higher than automatic transmission replacement (fac
tory remanufactured) prices.
From my experience, they are optimistic. I've had three cars with mpg
readouts and they were 1 to 3 mpg higher than actual. It also varied
from tank to tank.
I've read where others said they were very accurate. Never heard of one
reading under though. I'd say in real terms, you got from 37 to 41 mg.
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