He's posting from Sasktel.net. If any car dealer dared to sell a car
without a block heater, he'd be run out of town strapped to a bison,
and with a bushel of canary seed shoved down his pants.
Larry (also posting from Saskatchewan, looking at the outdoor
thermometer that tells me it's -23C right now)
Fred... on our '04 Elantra, it was kind of wrapped around the washer
fluid reservoir, if I remember correctly.
I have no idea how -23C is cold, does that thermometer have a F on it?
Actually when traveling thru the Yukon once (in the summer), I asked an
old-timer how cold it got in the winter. His reply was 30 below. When I
asked if F or C, he said at that temp it didn't make any difference.
"Oleg Lego" < email@example.com> wrote in message
It does, but I seldom bother with it.
It's about -10F
Well,-40C is the same as -40F. When he said it didn't make any
difference at -30, he was close, and probably meant that it was damn
cold in either system.
Tonight (right now) it's -34C, or about -30F.
They are predicting a wind chill of -60 or so tomorrow.
Not looking forward to going out in it.
You must have anti-freeze for blood........That's freekin cold.
Reminds me of of a college camping trip with a bunch of buddys on a
thanksgiving weekend...many ..many moons ago. It got down to -8F.
Even with half of us drunker than a skunk it was bad.... At least colman
fuel starts a fire damn fast...thou that 50 foot pillar of flame can draw
Wish I did! I just layer on enough clothing and try to keep any
exposed skin out of the wind. This morning, when I went out, it was
about -32C (about -25F),with winds about 70-80 km/hr.
I put on a pair of longies (thermal underwear with long legs), a pair
of track pants, a pair of wind pants, a T-shirt, a long sleeved
flannel shirt, a down jacket with hood, gauntlet-style mitts, a
balaclava and a toque (a knit cap, for you USAns, like the cap Stan
wears on South Park), and pair of lined rubber boots over ordinary
With the hood up, I was just comfortable as long as I faced away from
the wind. Turning to face the wind, which was unavoidable, my face
hurt.. Staying that way for long would definitely result in frostbite
on any exposed skin within a few minutes. Whenever I happened to be in
a sheltered spot, with no wind, I was uncomfortably hot and starting
After about 10-15 minutes, my fingers started to get pretty darned
cold, and about 5 minutes after that, my toes started feeling it.
It's usually only a few days at a time, though. They are saying our
high tomorrow will be about -9C (about +15F).
-8, eh? Yeah, that kind of weather makes me button up my shirt
Two things regarding the conversion from F to C.
**There are exactly 9 Farenheit degrees for every 5 Celsius degrees (and so,
18 F for every 10 C). Since 32 Farenheit is 0 Celsius, that means that 41 F
is 5 C, 50F is 10C, and so forth. Conversely, -10C is 14F, -20C is -6F and
**-40 is the same temperature for both Farenheit and Celsius (now THAT is
So, yes, -23C would be somewhere around -12F.
COLD, no matter how you say it.
After calling the "local dealer" and asking where the block heater was they
alluded to the fact that it wasn't installed .
I would have to book an appointment for them to inspect this. Sure enough
there wasn't one and they installed it. My poor wife sat through 2.5 hours
of service "inconsideration" (they don't offer courtesy rides on the
weekend-but fail to inform you of this when you book)
they finally put one in. Interestingly a couple walked in with an XG350 and
got the Royal service, and a courtesy car. Dealers they are all alike.Why do
we pay PDI-what the hell are they doing?
I get so tired of pampered, all-about-me whinners complaining about the
dealer and how put out they were. You didn't ask about a courtesey car and
just assumed that you deserved one. Suddenly it's the dealer's fault for
not advising you? Why should the dealer provide you a car simply because
you brought yours in to have something installed that isn't even part of the
standard factory equipment? You bought the car used, right? Who should
have made sure the block heater was installed? You. But now the dealer is
inconveniencing you. Bull.
Your poor wife had to endure 2.5 hours of service "inconsideration"? What
do you expect when you bring a car in for service? Do you expect that they
drop everything and wave their magic wand and fix your car in the wink of
an eye? How long have you been on this earth? You want the car altered but
you don't want to afford the dealer the time to do the job.
Maybe they bought that car there. Maybe they've purchases more than one car
there. Maybe they didn't just come in to get their own goof up corrected
and expect the dealer to fall all over them.
For your information the car was purchased as new. In this part of the world
block heaters are standard equipment on all vehicles. When customer service
tells you that no one is available to give you a ride and then you see eight
salesmaen and other support staff standing around watching a hockey game and
prentending they are busy don't give me this crap.In my world it is called
customer service-ever hear of it?
No - I don't expect someone to be there at my beck and call simply because
I'm there. Their pupose for being at the dealership is not to give you a
lift because you want one. Sorry - you lose.
You should try to use the delete button, Mike. The OP had a valid
complaint for the area he/she lives in. The dealer screwed up and should
have made every effort to make up for that screw up. Not having anyone
available to drop someone off while 8 salesmen are watching a hockey game
sounds a little rude to me considering they made the mistake.
This is one reason why most, if not all, Hyundai dealers suck.
Speaking of whining...aren't you also whining every time someone comes here
to complain about something? Whine, whine, whine. Why don't you try to
help them or STFU already?
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