Yeah, they tend to eat bulbs and annual replacement seems to be about
average. I've tried some higher-end bulbs (Silverstars, PIAA) and
although their output is higher and whiter, their life is no better than
the stock bulbs.
One-year headlight bulbs is trhe norm, these days...it is not specific
to one brand of car. I can't find a set of headlight bulbs that lasts
more than a year in my 2003 Madza Protege either. It is the bulbs,
not the cars.
Interesting. In the past, I've had bulbs last for many years. One of my
Regal lights was 15 years, the other probably 10. My LeSabre is at 6 right
now and so far only one taillight was changed. These take different bulbs
than most of the newer cars though. Another key is the voltage output of
the alternator. that may be higher on these cars?
I also suspect bulb design. Getting high output shortens life. Getting
high output also sells more bulbs. What a co-incidence.
Although I'm sure that bulb life is related to bulb use, I did not
have any experience with standard headlights lasting only a year until
I purchased my 2003 automobile, which is the first car I've owned that
uses the the small 55 watt headlight bulb design. At first I thought
that there was a problem with my car's electrical system, but after I
checked around I found that most all manufacturers of these types of
bulbs are only claiming a duty life of one year. My driving habits
have not really changed signicantly in the last twenty years, so I
can't blame the decreased bulb-life-length on more night driving, and
I'm also well aware that the glass on these little bulbs should not be
touched with the fingers.
Check out Slyvania's website (the most common manufacturer of standard
55 watt headlight bulbs) and you will notice that their warrantiy for
these types of bulbs is one year...exactly.
It is not a car-related problem.
I'm not taking exception to your comments at all...they are completely
valid. I just wanted to make it known to the guy that started this
thread that I didn't come by my own conclusions off the cuff. They are
based of my own personal experience and research. Not trying to pass
myself off as a headlight expert, here...he just happened to hit on a
subject that I had visited not too long ago, myself.
Just my 2-cents: I drive a '98 Camry and keep the headlights on all the
time for safety. The last headlight replacement I did was in 2002,
November 2nd to be exact, with a standard Sylvania Bulb. The other bulb
has never been changed by me - I purchased the car 'used' in September
More information: I've been driving for 33 years without a single
traffic accident - the past 26 or so with my headlights turned on all
the time. My two kids have been driving for a combined 16 years, without
a single accident and they both use their headlights all the time. My
wife has been driving for 31 years, has had four major (totaled vehicle)
accidents and at least three or four minor ones and refuses (or forgets)
to drive with her headlights on. Something to think about?
And I have a 92 Isuzu pickup truck that I've owned since 94 that I've
never had to put a headlight in. It still has the same headlights that
were in it when I bought it, and they still work fine. I believe they
are also Sylvania...the old sealed-beam design.
That was then, and this is now. The one-year headlight phenomenon is
a very recent occurence, involving only recently manufactured
headlight bulbs, and rtelatively recent model cars. Furthermore, it
may even be only a factor for certain headlight designs a.k.a. small
55-watt non-sealed beam bulbs.. The older sealed-beam headlight
design may in fact still be manufactured to last much longer.
My daughter bought a 2001 Elantra in August and I've already had to
replace both headlights - although one was replaced because it appeared
dimmer than the other. Strange... I guess I can look forward to seeing
her at least twice a year though - a good thing.
My wife's '00 Accord has never had any bulbs of any kind changed since
we purchased the car new in November of '99 - although, she doesn't keep
her lights on all the time.
At least bulbs are easily changed - although I had to remove the battery
to replace the headlight in my daughter's Elantra... Not so bad.
I'm surprised that more cars don't have them. I've had them on my last two
and you always had them on especially in marginal weather. My Buick turns
the headlights on when you turn the wipers on too.
The "auto on" feature of my Sonata is too sensitive at times. In the early
morning, they will go off and on a dozen times on one tree lined road. My
GM cars never did.
That auto on feature having the lights turn on multi times on a tree
lined street must be very hard on light bulbs. I rarely drive at
night and the bulbs in my 2000 Accent still work. They are also lower
I just had to replace the two low beam bulbs on my Hyundai Elantra.
They both went "out" at the exact same time. At a cost of $17.00 for
each bulb. It's a lot. My Elantra is a 2004. The first was easy to
replace, the second was harder... they don't make it easy do they?
Well, been driving for 22 years and have never used headlights during
the day, including the removal of DRLs on two cars that I own. I have
only had two minor accidents in 2000, one because I got distracted and
hit a car that slow down suddenly in front of me and the other when I
looked at my pager and ran a red light. In neither instance would
having lights on have made any difference.
My wife has been driving for 19 years and had DRLs for 6 years, until
she turned them off :). I don't know of any accidents that she has had,
even during the 13 years that she didn't have DRLs. She only like them
because she would sometimes forget to turn them on.
My Dad has been driving for 52 years and never uses his lights, during
the day. He had a single car accident on the highway and lights weren't
There are plenty of us that drive just fine and see just fine without
the lights. You really can't go on personal experience and quite
honestly if you have been running with your lights on for so many
years, it was illegal in most states before 1994.
Anyway, there are plenty of folks that can't stand the lights and the
fact that they are a distraction to seeing everything you need to see
to safely drive. The bottom line is that many of the DRLs produce glare
and this causes your eyes to notice one input and not see the
pedestrian, non lit car, byciclist or road hazard, due to that
momentary lapse of focus. The best thing is for all cars to be non lit
and equally seen, and for people to turn their headlights on in
inclement weather or low light conditions.
Oh, I haven't had to replace the headlights on my truck for 9 years
The lights are not so you can see, but so you can be seen. I've had a couple
of instances where I'd see an oncoming car with DRLs before I'd see the car
in front of it with no lights. They are not a "cure" for everything, but
under certain circumstances, they helpyou spot the car with them.
A good DRL is a dim light, not a full low or high beam. Yes, high beams
during the day can still blind you at times.
Good point on the lowered brightness. If all of the DRLs were of a
lower brightness, then glare would not be an issue.
Now, yes you did notice the car with the lights and you did notice it
before the car without them (even though that car was closer to you).
However if the car had its lights off, then you would have seen the car
in front of that car sooner and would have been able to react quicker
to what was closer to you. What about the pedestrian that you didn't
see that was between the cars (just to add to the scenario)? While your
eyes focus on the lights, it is highly possible to miss other more
So it is better to miss both than just one? We can always issue miner's
helmets to pedestrians to solve that problem.
The trick is to be aware of the car and not focus on the lights. I don't
know if your point is valid or not, but there are very few pedestrians on
interstates, rural country roads, and a gazillion other places so it may not
be a factor. I'm sure there are some studies done if we take the time to
look for them.
On 17 Jan 2007 20:09:36 -0800, email@example.com wrote:
So, you buy a new car and immediately start tearing out the DRL's? Maybe
the light bulb in your head will one day tell you that not paying
attention to your driving is what causes accidents and not DRL's.....
I bet you drive while talking on your cell phone and don't wear seat
belts because you once heard that a person who wasn't wearing their seat
belt survived a fiery crash when they were thrown clear.
Uh-huh. That makes a lot of sense.
My Dad's been driving since 1945 and was rear-ended by a drunk driver in
1961..... I'll bet my Dad could beat your Dad in a fair fight!
Not in Pennsylvania - unless you drove a pick-em-up truck with the
bulbies on all the time (pickup truck with fog lamps). BTW, DRL's aren't
for seeing, they're for being seen.
Glare? In the daytime? This is crap. The sole reason I run with my
headlights on is so that moron drivers will take notice of my car at a
further distance than is normally possible. If you are drawn to my
headlights like a moth to a flame then you're a nitwit.
- Yes, I disabled my DRLs when I took delivery of my used truck in
2000. I will do it to any car that I buy.
- Yes, I was distracted in both instances. It would have happen whether
the other cars had DRLs or flashing lights or whatever. The fault was
not paying attention, you are correct and you are right that it had
nothing to do with DRLs. Thanks for verifying my point.
- I do drive while talking on my cell phone, absolutely. I always wear
my seatbelts, law or not.
By the way, with 2 accidents in 22 years, I stand by my driving. Oh,
also I drive over 30,000 miles a year, so my percentage of accidents
versus total driving is even lower.
- Note, I said most states, that obviously does not include all states.
Yes, DRLs are for being seen, I am glad you figured that out, LOL :).
- Absolutely, maybe not for you, hmmm. Well anyway, if you ever have to
adjust your mirror or look away from a car during the day, it is
because of the glare. It is real, but perceptions do vary.
Quite honestly, if a person needs you to have your lights on so that
they can notice you way far away, then they shouldn't be driving. Your
car is visible without the lights, either way.
So, let me get this straigtht, you need DRLs so that people can see you
a long distance away when they aren't anywhere near you so that they
will focus on you and miss the car that is closer. I understand, LOL.
To clarify, it is not a "moth to a flame" it is a momentary visual
distraction that briefly pauses your gaze on a single object and allows
you to miss other objects that you should be seeing.
Nice name calling, LOL :).
- Yep, a truck. You should have known, because that is what I said.
I only replied to you because you "tried" to talk about stuff. However,
you are just spouting off about certain things and calling names. That
type of activity adds nothing to the discussion. You need to do a
better job of not characterizing and belittling others. Your
condescending tone and stereotyping are noted.
I almost hate to be the one to say it, but that's just plain stupid and
utterly pointless. Do you disconnect the airbags, too?
You really don't get it, do you. Several people have already said it,
but I'll reiterate: DRLs are not so the driver can see, they're so the
vehicle is easier for OTHERS to see at a distance. What is so hard to
understand about that. A good example is that a silver car on a gray
highway on an overcast day is difficult to separate from the background
at any distance, unless it has it's lights on, in which case it stands
- What is utterly pointless is the comment you just made. And it would
have been pointless to have my lights on during the day, just a waste.
I didn't disconnect the Airbags, but I wouldn't mind if they were :).
Now, can you reply without calling someone stupid, please grace us with
some intelligent conversation, next time.
- Why you people keep trying to correct me, is not making any sense. I
never said that DRLs are to help the driver see forward from out of
their car, that is plain silly, why do you think that? I do know that
DRLs are supposed to help others see you, but in fact they just keep
you from seeing all of the inputs that you need to see to drive
properly in the daylight.
You wish to see cars at a distance, that have no relevance to your
current driving position. They are far enough way that they don't even
need to be considered by you. In fact, if you are having to strain to
see a car in the daylight, then either you can't see or the car is so
far away that you shouldn't be noticing it. All you people keep saying
is that you want to see cars in the distance, well you already could,
but you want to see them farther and farther away, I suppose. So, it is
so important that you see cars that are miles away from you that they
need to have their lights on in broad daylight, yeah sure, ROTFLOL.
Look, all I have said that we need to be able to see all traffic,
pedestrians, byciclists and other hazards equally and the only way to
do this is to leave the lights off during the day. The answer is not to
doubly concentrate to overcome the visual distraction of the lights.
The answer is not to see cars that are miles away. The answer is not to
call people stupid and make up silly things that were never said. And
finally the answer is not to run around with our lights on during the
day like a bunch of people with poor eyesight.
If you would stop just blindly accepting the next "safety innovation"
as a type of gospel and actually use your God given brains, you would
understand that people could see other cars before DRLs and they will
be able to see the cars just fine after we finally stop shining lights
in peoples faces.
What has been accomplished here is that you and others of your ilk,
have proven that all you can do is poke and prod and call people names.
This isn't a little schoolyard, so can you people please stop talking
like you are in elementary school and get on with some real
I don't know whether to laugh or cry over you comments, they range
between a comedy and a tragedy.
Enough of this, either come up with something substantial to say or
don't say anything. The collective intellect of this list is creeping
downward with your posts, LOL :).
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