Inspection failure

This is from the Hmaservice website.

2006 > G 3.3 DOHC > P0638 Throttle Actuator Control Range/Performance Checking output signals from TPS. under detecting condition, if the difference between real and target throttle position is above the specified value, PCM sets P0638. MIL(Malfunction Indication Lamp) turns on when the malfunction lasts till 1 driving cycle.

2006 > G 3.3 DOHC > P1295 ETC (Electronic Throttle Control) System Malfunction - Power Management If power management mode is recognized under detecting condition, PCM sets P1295. And MIL(Malfunction Indication Lamp) turns on.

The Electronic Throttle Control(ETC) system is made of the components throttle body, Throttle Position Sensor(TPS)1&2 and Accelerator Position Sensor(APS) 1&2. The throttle body contains the actuator, the throttle plate and the throttle position sensor (potentiometer), which are integrated in one housing. The actuator consists of a DC motor with a two-stage gear. The opening angle of the throttle valve is detected by the throttle position sensor which is mounted on the throttle body. And it provides feedback to the PCM to control the throttle motor in order to control the throttle valve opening angle properly in response to the driving condition

Thanks! So they both relate to the throttle in one way or another. This is very interesting considering the throttle problem I mentioned. First time and only time it has ever happened thus far.

And also amazingly, the CEL went off after driving the car a few times. I'm wondering if this was just a fluke one time thing. My appt. at the dealer is 9/1, but I may attempt to take it back for re-inspection before then. It doesn't hurt you here if you fail twice.

Eric

"Partner" wrote in news:h76p33$pl0$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org:

Be careful that you don't take it back in for inspection too soon after the dealer (or anyone) clears the codes, a status is set and doesn't clear until a number of drive cycles have been driven. This status will also cause a rejection. This is to stop people from clearing the codes and going straight to the inspection before the error can recur. Are you saying that he failed you even though the CEL was not on, just because he found the codes set?

"Partner" wrote in news:h77gqp$bl1$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org:

No, sorry. I know what I wrote was a little confusing. The CEL was on initially, then turned off, then apparently was on again. It was still on when I took possesion of the car again, but turned off after a little bit of driving. And I was warned by the dealer about the drive cycle requirement. I am headed out now to the inspection station. All they can do is fail me again if need be and I already have a dealer appointment next Tuesday.

Thanks again, Eric

The inspection station was too jammed yesterday, so I went this morning after a midnight shift and passed without an issue. I'm probably still going to let the dealer have a look to see if maybe it was something more than a fluke.

Eric

"Eric G." wrote in news:Xns9C758C4B96D92Xz124HiiUdfEEE6@209.197.15.254:

The plain English translation of all this is that P0638 set and the check engine lamp came on because the PCM perceived it was unable to move the throttle plate to the desired position. P1295 sets when a power management mode is entered. In this case, because the PCM detected a problem with the throttle body, it limited engine rpm to prevent uncontrolled acceleration. There's a technical service bulletin regarding this problem. It instructs the technician to replace the throttle position sensor and reprogram the PCM. If you haven't done this already, have it done soon. The car isn't very driveable when the problem occurs.

hyundaitech wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@v2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:

Thanks, HT. Haven't seen this TSB. Will look and get it applied soon.

Eric