Those expensive keys are called "transponder" keys. Some key shops can
provide them, and $80 sounds a little high but maybe not, and can cut the
key itself so you can open the door with it. But the car has to be
programmed to accept the key as a valid electronic key when you use it to
start the car. Don't know about late model Hondas, but with our 2002 Toyota
(Prius) the procedure involves a dance that is guaranteed to make you feel
foolish and to make bystanders point and stare:
http://www.coastaletech.com/keys.htm . The Honda may require programming at
the dealer - I dunno. It's the price of security against car thieves, at
least the ones who don't use tow trucks.
BTW - don't ever lose the last programmed key, so you don't have any. My
understanding is that requires replacement of the security module, for many
hundreds of dollars.
| Those expensive keys are called "transponder" keys. Some key shops can
| provide them, and $80 sounds a little high but maybe not, and can cut the
| key itself so you can open the door with it. But the car has to be
| programmed to accept the key as a valid electronic key when you use it to
| start the car. Don't know about late model Hondas, but with our 2002
| (Prius) the procedure involves a dance that is guaranteed to make you feel
| foolish and to make bystanders point and stare:
| http://www.coastaletech.com/keys.htm . The Honda may require programming at
| the dealer - I dunno. It's the price of security against car thieves, at
| least the ones who don't use tow trucks.
| BTW - don't ever lose the last programmed key, so you don't have any. My
| understanding is that requires replacement of the security module, for
| hundreds of dollars.
That's pretty much how the Hondas handle programming the system for new
remote transmitters, but the keys are encoded by a special machine.
Dealers have the machine; all it takes is one of your original keys.
They can cut another one and have the transponder code transferred into
the new key, no problem.
With the Honda system, there's no issue of "too many keys for the system
to keep track of". You can make as many keys as you like, since they're
all duplicates, right down to the transponder encoding.
But the tradeoff is that you *must* pay someone to use the transponder
duplicator to make your key a good one for the ignition. That jumps the
price of the key to include the labor.
But I'll take that over paying a bunch for an encoded key that I have to
teach my car to listen to. Under that scenario, the car has a limit to
how many keys it can work with. I think that's bad. I'll pay for the
extra keys to have the privilege of unlimited copies.
I've not heard that. I doubt it; for example, they can't give you the
radio security code with just the VIN. That requires the radio serial
I do believe that there may be some sort of serial number on the
computer module that may be of use in getting another key blank. I do
know that you can also replace the computer module, at great expense,
and that will start you fresh with new keys and code. If you've had
your keys stolen along with some sort of identifying papers, such that
the thief could get to your van, people have replaced the computer
module so that the stolen keys don't work.
Your selling dealer keeps the radio code. It is associated with the VIN in
case service has to be done, or so you can get it from them if you need it,
and of course can't locate where you put it.
I have no idea if the same is true for the keys.
My new Ford Escape came with no radio key fobs. They magically made the
ones they took from some other Ford Escape work for my car.
Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8-122.5
MINE does--actually, the dealership doesn't, my salesman does. In a 3x5
file card box. Handwritten. That's just something he does for HIS
But I sincerely doubt that many dealerships, as policy, do this for
Therefore, when you need the radio code and you've lost it, and you
don't deal with the possible handful of dealership that do this, you're
stuck with finding the code via the radio serial number.
If you're lucky, you (or the original owner) stuck the radio serial
number sticker in the glovebox or something, so you don't have to pull
the radio to get it.
The VIN is the serial number for the car, which should give them the correct
information. I replaced a key for my Cherokee at the Chrysler dealer in
this way. They have the transponder codes on file and can be programmed at
the dealer without another key based on the VIN.
I would have to think that if Chrysler can do it, Honda should also have
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