Hi-Lift Jack Thread

for the tires. I love my Goodyear MT/R's

Carl

No, a high lift jack will 'not' work for changing a tire.

It is properly called a 'Widow Maker' and has no business being anywhere near a Jeep. It is a farm tool that some redneck took in his Jeep and convinced others it was a 'cool' thing to have because they couldn't afford a jack or even a hand winch. It's not. Look ma, I don't need no stinking jack to change a tire and lookee at those fools with winches, the day before they buried him 6' under....

I carry a small hydraulic floor jack like your helper. It fits behind the passenger seat great and I carry a 'come-A-long' cable hand winch.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jersey wrote:

Those Hi-lift jacks are just a copy of the old (dating myself again) bumper jacks that cars used to have, they worked but more people got injured using them. If you want a different jack the small bottle that came with. try either a small floor jack, a medium bottle jack or something similar.

Snow...

The last one I was near came within 1/4" of removing half of my face and I was paranoid of them already. Since first seeing one drop back in the

60's I think....

Mike

"L.W.(ßill) Hughes III" wrote:

Like everyone else said, the hilift shouldn't be used to change tires. That isn't its intedend use. I have 33's and a 4" lift and I'm fairly certain my stock bottle jack will still assist me in changing a tire.

Eric

isn't its intedend

will still assist me

Thanx for the input, guess I'll dig around the garage. I'm sure I have an old scissor & a couple good size bottle jacks out there.

L8r - George

It works great on my 35" tires and it even works on 37" tires. :)

Jerry

Let me say, though, of all the stories of when someone was using the hilift as it was intended, but was maimed/killed/almost xxx, it seems there were extra circumstances. 1) The most common is: I was distracted.. or I took my hand off the handle for just a minute... or I turned to do this... seems to me if they had been focused on the task at hand and handling the jack, that wouldn't have happened. 2) The condition of the jack was never clear. Was it mounted on the outside of the vehicle and exposed to the elements all the time? Was it really old? and 3) How experienced was the user?

You can bet I won't take my eyes/hands/focus off the jack for a second while I'm using it. If I am in a situation that I had to, then I'll wait for someone else to handle what would require my attention. I also will only mount my jack inside the cab (behind the rollbars). That will keep the elements off it. If I'm going to have the top down, I'll put it in a bag. Also, I can guarantee I won't use this without learning how to use it properly first. I'll definitely get some experienced people to give me a hand if/when I use it the first couple of times.

Ok, I'm off my soapbox now... ;-)

HAPPY HO-HO TO EVERYONE!!!

Eric

Easy to say but there's no gaurantee of this. Say you've lifted the Jeep and are focusing intently on the operation. Your Jeep is in a precarious situation on the rocks and the strain on the suspension causes one of the springs to break ...or even just to make a loud & sudden noise ...your body will reflexively not only look but your hands and body will probably move somewhat. Now your attention is diverted and you may have momentarily let go of the Jack in the middle of a crank ...

Even taking that situation a little furthur ...if a spring or something did break and the Jeep shifted, that could cause just as much of a problem (if not worse) and wouldn't be the operators fault at all. However you look at it, the Hilift is a potentially very dangerous tool and the operator and all bystanders should be well aware of these risks and not assume for a second that they are 100% safe.

Ya know come to think, I'm old enough to remember when that was the (standard) type of jack that came with all cars & trucks & they did the job but I also remember wondering if the thing was going to go flying or slip out from under the car. Also it's real easy to get caught up in the moment while changing a flat (or getting yourself outa a swamp-hole which may just be the case down here in Florida) but you do get caught up & find your self doing things that you wouldn't normally do. To get my Jeep's blowout changed the other day we did a couple things that weren't very safe & I remember that I even commented that "I was sure OSHA wouldn't approve of this." But when your on the side of the road & traffic is flying by & your half on the road, half off or close to a ditch, sand all over & pieces of tires, nut, bolts, broken bottles, beer cans & other assorted roadside trash you're not thinking safety so much as you might be thinking what's the quickest way to get this tire changed & get the hell outa here. I guess there's always AAA..........................

Happy Holidays Ya'll - George

isn't its intedend

will still assist me

The last 2 I saw do bad things were new. One went insane when up and not attended, (guy had to let go to hook up a chain) that one almost removed the side of my face and the other one just dropped 18" almost taking the gent's foot and finger off.

A buddy's dad worked for the railroad and he showed/taught us about those things back in the 60's. He was good and showed us all the ways they can screw up before letting us near one.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric wrote:

That POS bottle jack is the best tool for changing a flat tire. A HiLift is poorly suited for that operation.

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