quick question sway bar links

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T-55 on my ZJ.

its a trick question, the bolt slides out and will not turn out, took me a long time to realise this, I just heated it with a torch and hammered it out.

55 or 57 I think

T55 . . removed mine today.

The don't come in odd numbers do they?

Looked at my set and they're all divisions of 5 (20,25,30,35,=...50,55)

Canadian tire here doesn't appear to carry bigger than T55. Are there any points on a '02 TJ that requires biggeR?

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Possibly the seatbelt harness.

The bench one mounted in the middle of the floor got removed right quick and that, I THINK, was a T50 I used but I remember it was sloppy, so I probably shoulda used the T55....

you just take them right off?? I want to remove or disconnect them for a run with the local Jeep club Sunday...I'm looking at about an 80 KMPH speeds to get to the trail.I've never removed them before nor have I ever driven a vehicle without them. What probs can I encounter??

ThankYou, Jeff

-Brian

-Brian

It is very illegal to drive on the street with no anti sway bar!!!!

If you get in a fender bender bad enough (injuries) that the police respond and they check out your rig and find that major piece of safety equipment missing, you will get busted and be the one found at fault in the accident.

They will say you could maybe have avoided the accident if you had proper steering control.

If you disconnect the rear one on a TJ, the back springs can/will fall out too.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jeff wrote:

While I agree that you should avoid driving on the road without the swaybar connected, it's not like the jeep is gonna flip at the first slight turn you make.

I have forgotten to reconnect mine after a trail before. You definitely notice looser handling, so you need to make sure you don't go as fast, and drive extra defensively (read: look further down the road) so you don't have to make sudden corrections or avoidance moves. If you drive carefully and realize the jeep is going to be more unresponsive to sudden changes in direction, you can usually handle it ok.

That said, I would still recommend leaving them connected and just bring your T55 to the trail to remove them there. Even if you do drive extremely defensively, it's always possible to have some idiot out there cause you to react suddenly, and the unexpected body roll without a swaybar could surprise you and cause you to get in an accident. If I notice the swaybar is still disconnected when I forget to reconnect it, I'll usually pull over and reconnect it before proceeding. I don't like the erratic curve response with it disconnected on the road.

So how's that for arguing both sides of the point? ;-)

Interesting. I didn't know it was actually *illegal* per se. So even though some dumbass might cut you off and cause an accident, you're supposedly at fault because you couldn't swerve around the idiot. Stupid, but I can definitely see that argument being made, and won.

So, don't do as I have been bad and done in the past! Don't be lazy! Keep that sucker attached until you're off-road, and remember to put it back on again after! ;-)

It is a major safety item on the vehicle.

I was in a bad fender bender and was told this from both the police and my insurance rep. They 'really' look for unsafe modifications and on a

4x4 anti sway bars on and matching tires are 'really' important.

My vehicle was in perfect shape which helped me be found the not at fault driver in court.

They consider taking the bar off tampering with safety equipment and would have tossed the book at me.

Mike

Bob wrote:

So what's the difference onroad/offroad with the rear springs not falling out?

You can put axle straps on it to hold it from dropping too low.

Most folks just undo the front one. I have never had mine off....

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:

Well good thing your jeep was in good shape!

I have a question, though, based on one of your (I think it was you) previous comments also about the swaybar...namely, the rear swaybar.

My friend's rear swaybar on his rubicon was making a bunch of noise from the bushing after he got it lifted, and his solution was to simply disconnect it altogether. He's now driving with no rear swaybar full time. He still keeps the front connected on-road, but disconnects it off-road. Personally, I thought that seemed a bit unwise, since having both disconnected would seem to me likely to make for even more body roll on off-camber slopes.

What is your take on this? Both for off-road and on-road purposes? He seems to think it's driving perfectly fine in both respects so far. And riding in his jeep once or twice, I haven't noticed any excessive rolling due to the lack of the rear SB. But if you have a good argument against what he's done, I'll let him know your reasoning, and he may reconsider his decision to remove that item.

Thanks, Bob

He is playing with fire one way or another.

One way if he say crosses a ditch at a 45 deg angle, the rear spring will fall out. This is how a stock TJ works.

The other way is he has the shocks limiting the travel of the springs. This quickly leads to broken off shocks from the droop hits. I have even seen frames snap from the impacts.

The bump stops prevent the axle from going to high, they need a bottom limit.

If he checks out speed shops, he can get straps to set the droop limit. Track cars use them for safety.

Mike

Bob wrote: