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So if you were to fit an ARB where would you put one first?

Rear diff or Front? My rain is telling me rear.

Discuss....

Lee D

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Lee_D
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whoops me B's dropped off :-)

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Lee_D

Rear - putting one in the front makes steering very 'interesting'.

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EMB

rear - not scientific - it just seems 'right' to me.

nah - liked the idea of rain inspired decision making already :)

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William Tasso

Only when it's locked, but I'd agree rear is best, however front is worth doing. On the krautwagon even with four rear wheels locked, the front two locking has made the difference between stuck and not stuck on occasion. For a start it's where most of the weight is unless you're carrying a load, and also it's directable force as the wheels can steer.

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Ian Rawlings

On or around Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:17:03 -0000, "Lee_D" enlightened us thusly:

I'd say rear first. If you get keen, you can fit another one in the front.

On steep climbs, there's less weight on the front, most of the driving is done at the back. on flat terrain a front one will make more difference but with all diffs locked it'll tend to go in a straight line. However, straight line out of the gloop is good, quite often.

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Austin Shackles

You'd be surprised actually, it seems to make the steering wheel harder to turn but once you've got the wheels to turn I've not found it that much more reluctant to steer, even with four locked at the rear. I've found fronts locked to be good for getting out of ruts and also to help you steer in mud as you get two wheels applying steering force rather than just spinning.

If someone's fitting ARB air lockers, IIRC it's about £300 for the compressor and control gear, and same again for each locker so once the control gear and first locker are in it's not so expensive to fit a front and well worth it.

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Ian Rawlings

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:17:03 -0000, "Lee_D" scribbled the following nonsense:

Depends on the use....

Start with one in the rear and then add to it later

For winch challenging, air lockables front and rear. I'm tempted by Jack Macnamara lockers at the mo, more reliable and better compressor, the ARB is not so good, and the Jack Macnamara one can be used as a tyre inflator IIRC. Also comes with stronger halfshafts, many people switch in their locker with the wheels still spinning and break halfshafts, but then your into the old arguement of shifting to the next weakest point in the drive train, strengthening that, and then on and on until the crank snaps!

For a pay and play toy or laning toy, I would have truetrac or detroit in the back so it locks when you need it, and air locker in the front for when you really need it.

Don't forget you have to drill and tap the diff carrier with air lockers too.

Don't skimp the job either, rebuild the whole diff with new bearings when doing the job as well.

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Simon Isaacs

Simon Isaacs uttered summat worrerz funny about:

I'm sure I've seen a ARB tyre inflator as an additional purchase thing.

H'mmmm but it won't go "Pssssstttt" when you press a button and it'll probably be reliable...whats the point of that on a Landie ;-)

I was wondering how that bit was done...Not too much of a problem.

I presume this then gets plumbed in to a hole in the axle case then?

After Morph that should be a doddle and I've now got the kit and know where I can get bearings pressed where required (input pinion).... a rear axle would now be a dream to do compared to a front sailsbury ala 101

Lee D

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Lee_D

In message , Lee_D writes

Definitely rear. I had both on my 200 Tdi.

When climbing front made very little difference because of weight transfer to rear axle. Some times it could be more of a hindrance than a help because of the effect it had on the steering so I would often knock the front lock out when climbing.

It was amusing on tarmac - you just couldn't turn the wheel even with power steering.

Great in mud of the flat - you get lots further in than anyone else before you get stuck.

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hugh

In message , Lee_D writes

You should have strengthened diff and half shafts as part of the kit - at least I did in mine, which wasn't ARB. Can't remember the name now

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hugh

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