damage from incorrect service lift?

It seems bizarre to me that a Landrover of all vehicles should be damaged by having its wheels lifted off the ground. Crikey, you see them flying through the air, or cross axled with 1or 2 wheels up in the air. Steve the grease

They have check straps anyway don't they?

It would be air suspension I suppose - how far do the airbags go before they pull apart?

If he's claiming $1200 he must know what he is claiming to be damaged. If not, then he's making up numbers.

They should not be lifted on a frame lift although normally no lasting damage will be done. The suspension system will need to be reset and recalibrated after being lifted in this way as the suspension ECU detects the out of range sensors and will put the suspension into a "get you home" mode, disabling normal operation of the suspension.

Resetting and recalibrating the ECU can only be done using specialist equipment available at a Land Rover main dealer or (in the UK anyway) at specialist repairers. Main dealers in the UK regularly charge an arm and a leg to reset the ECU following this kind of treatment.

HTH

Dave W.

I lifted mine more than once on a frame lift (once to change the suspension air bags at the rear) and did no damage at all. The only possibility I could see of problems was the airbags turning inside out and coming apart, as they're designed to be under compression, not tension. But that didn't happen, and I did pay a lot of attention to the possibility, given I was already working on the suspension.

The manual does say not to leave the wheels dangling IIRC. But if you jack the thing up on a hi-lift (no jacking points notwithstanding) you're going to get the same effect. Also if you jack any part of the car up enough, sooner or later you'll get a dangling wheel.

In this case I think the owner needs to clarify exactly what damage has been done. If the air springs have come apart, they fit back together again, you wouldn't generally need to replace them.

I guess brake pipes could also be vulnerable, and the EAS height sensors, depending on exactly how far the axle hung before the shocks stopped it off.

David

No damage whatsoever. The shock absorbers would prevent any overstretching of the airbags.

The clue is in the '$' sign. Typical bloody yank trying to get a few free bucks.

So you'd find it as hard to believe as I that by lifting the vehicle on a frame lift would cause the alternator to stop charging and crack and melt the underhood fuse box? (grin)

The shop that lifted it changed the oil.. shortly thereafter they get a call that the AC has stopped working, the power windows don't work, and the suspension is resting on the bump stops. The shop pays for a rollback tow to a Rover independent shop.. the customer drops off a bill to the shop for $1200.. and wants the shop to pay for the repairs. Customer alleges that the Rover shop told her that lifting with a frame lift caused all the damage.. (also, this Range Rover has

Now, I suspect that the alternator went out and caused all the problems. In researching this problem I've found references to alternators failing and throwing a code in the electronic suspension, causing it to go into 'limp home' mode and let all the air out of the suspension. Bad alternator would also explain the failed AC and power windows.

I don't see any connection between frame lift and failed alternator.. anyone here know of anything of the sort?

Thanks,

Jim

Funny, we never have this problem with the air suspension on our buses. And they have ferry/lowride settings, and kneel at the front. And it's all done with simple switches and sensors, no ECU in the thing.

Alex

Could have caused the EAS problem, but would be easily fixable. But I can't see how it could have caused the other problems.

May be best to tell the customer the Rover shop is talking rubbish, and suggest they explain in writing how the frame lift may have caused this damage.

Unless... they didn't position the frame lift to lift the vehicle by the alternator, did they? :)

David

Not really an answer but " since you serviced my car my cat died and my television blew up, What you gonna do about it?" :O)

-- Jon