Engineers

I have built a few mongrels and hybrids in my time, all I have ever done is listed the modifications, put down that I was the engineer and got a valid MOT.

Never had any problems with the insurance companies, my old "Forduki" had two A4 sheets worth of listed modifications and IIRC 3PFT was ?130 with Adrian Flux.

Fundamentally the insurance company are looking for a third party to apportion blame to in the event of a problem, so rather than an individual I am sure they would prefer a company. Many moons ago when faced with this I used a local independent LR Garage. They were sent a form, ticked all the relevant boxes and put their signature to the paper. Job done - small fee in hand.

Neil

In message , Geoff writes

But they would have had a fit if they had ever seen it !!!!! ;-)

From my experience of converting a Transit into a camper I can say the simple fact is you've gone to the wrong insurance company. I got exactly the same as you from companies who really didn't want this type of work. I pissed about trying to find out what they meant, was at one point told verbally that an MOT was good enough but then they denied it in writing, was told to go to a reputable camper dealer who said "engineers report, what's one of them then?", and so on, down the page of such insurers.

In the end I just found an insurance company who wanted the work, listed the mods, had to state it was MOT'd and road legal (as if any insurance would be valid if it wasn't !). I found that kit-car specialists are the place to go for DIY vehicles. Greg

It's going off topic but to give the complete story, kit car insurers will do normal vehicle insurance up to comprehensive but will NOT cover the gas/mains installation in a vehicle or any consequences there of, for that you have to go to specialist camper insurers who just don't want to know about DIY work but are too stupid to simply state it and piss you about with this engineers report malarkey. Greg

NFU required an independent report when I put my 110 back on the road after the bent rear offside outrigger and bucket were straightened. I needed the report from a qualified vehicle engineer and it cost about GBP150. My wife says we still have the report so if necessary I can dig out his qualification.

DLR had basically straightened it all out on the day the accident happened and it was only the fact that the guy who shunted me made a claim on his insurance that triggered any interest from my insurers.

AJH

On or around Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:32:22 +0000, AJH enlightened us thusly:

Mine is with NFU and for the policy I want there are very few options, so I do need to keep 'em happy. I guess I'll hunt engineers in the yaller pages or somesuch. I've no problem with paying provided it gets me the right results.

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Austin,

You may find an AA or RAC report would be accepted. When we ever had major damage repaired on our fleet of company cars (not infrequent sadly!) the insurers insisted on an independant engineers report on completion, and we used the RAC

AWEM

On or around Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:26:05 -0000, "Andrew Mawson" enlightened us thusly:

That's a good suggestion. If not, the AA might have a list of engineers. It's a similar scenario although I'm not repairing damage.

It occurred to me to wonder whether I'm barking up the wrong tree, and I should be hunting the panels for a 110 FC - but I've no idea whether those are available, and I suspect that building a 110FC from panels and then building a minibus-esque body on the back would be even more work than transplanting the transit body onto it.

"Austin Shackles" wrote :-

You do mean a 110" and not a 101"?. If you wanted to consider a 110" FC it's almost the same as a 109" Series chassis with fairly minor differences and an extension bolted to the front dumb irons but I don't know where you would get a chassis from. I have a complete 110" 2B FC if you want any measurements. If you meant a 101" FC a friend of mine has had one for quite a while now in pieces and I would think he will sell it (chassis has been sand blasted and red leaded), I'll ask him if you are interested.

Martin

On or around Thu, 23 Nov 2006 00:45:10 -0000, "Oily" enlightened us thusly:

I have a complete 110... but I've pretty much decided to use the transit body on it. Just got to get me act together, finish some other work which takes precedence and then get on with it :-)

The reason for all this is that NONE of the standard LR motors can be got or adapted to carry 8 pax in a form that meets the regulations about children and seat belts. A 130 SW would do it, but that would be a pain due to the length/turning circle thing.

I could, with enough time and money, build a 90/130 6-wheeler with a countersteering back axle, which would solve the turning circle thing and would look dead cool...

but the transit body on a 110 chassis gets me a complete body with seats, windows, belts and about twice the interior space of a 110, and should be relatively easy to fit.

Sorry, I misunderstood, but...you did say 110FC, as in Forward Control?

Martin

That´s usually 101 innit ?

Steve

Austin do you have any pics of what you are up to, I am most interested, and would like to see it..

Rich

No, not mine, '68 110" FC Series 2B Diesel 2286cc. A rare bird!

Martin

Not too rare - I've seen 4 in the last few months.

Well having converted my landie into a stealth camper, I informed the insurance company and that was that no bother at all. After all what difference does it really make to the vehicles likelihood of being involved in an accident?

What, fitted originally with 2 1/4 D?, I wouldn't have thought so, I've never seen or heard of another in the 15 or so years I've had mine, I've seen plenty of converted ones with Perkins 4/203 and 4/236, Ford 240 and 200 Tdi engines in 'em along with V8s and original 6 pots.

Martin

On or around Thu, 23 Nov 2006 20:27:32 -0000, "Oily" enlightened us thusly:

yes I did. it was just a stray thought, though. occurred to me to wonder about whether the insurers have 110 FC listed as a model.

I've certainly seen a few - presumably built by SVO on what is I imagine a modified 110 chassis.