Knocking noise from Disco rear brakes

I'll try to keep this brief. I'm looking for advice along the lines of "Take it straight back and complain" or "Sounds fair enough".

1997 Discovery TDi ES (ABS. Solid discs)

On Friday I had new brake discs all round, new brake pads all round and new brake pipes. A main dealer did the job and it cost a packet. The vehicle wasn't ready at the agreed time because they'd had trouble and were still road-testing it.

Apparently, on the first road test they heard a knocking from the rear brakes. This was due to "the pads needing to be de-glazed. Something on the pads must be causing them to stick to the discs and then jump off, making a knocking noise." This happens occasionally, apparently, so they took some sandpaper to the pads, reassembled everything and took it out on another road test. There was still a knocking noise. So, they sanded the pads again ....... and again.

They then advised me that this has happened once before in their workshop and they reckon the new discs and pads just need a few more miles to bed in. The last fella was OK after a couple of days! If it's still knocking after a couple of days I should bring it back in, just in case there's a faulty disc or something.

This seemed like a reasonable story at the time, so I drove the 50 miles home. I didn't drive like a maniac but I didn't dawdle either. It was just a normal journey but I was aware that my brakes may feel/respond differently to normal so I allowed a bit more space to brake. I listened very carefully everytime I applied the brakes but heard nothing until I was about three miles from home. I was braking at a Give Way line when I heard a slow-ish knock-knock-knock-knock from the back end.

I've done another 60 miles since then and have not heard the noise again.

What do you think? With hindsight I feel I should have said "It didn't do that when I brought it in, so I'm not paying till you've sorted it". However, there doesn't seem to be any problem with the brakes, ie the braking is fine although I haven't yet tried a high-speed (over 50mph) brake, and I haven't heard the noise since Friday.

Any thoughts?

Judith

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Judith
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I dont think you're in any danger of failure. If they had the pads out several times then they are most likely put back in properly. I've had brakes make strange noises after relining / new bits fitted, but its always gone away eventually. I think its a case of suck it and see, but I would write to the dealership who did the work telling them what you told us, 'just for the record' so if the knock comes back you have something to beat them with.

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Colonel Tupperware

Hate to be controversal but I would be less inclined to trust a dealer than an independant. Less loyalty, more time pressure, less need to keep good name. Once had a brake set up sorted at a main Renault agent and after a day or so of overheating rear drum discovered they had left a clamp on the pipe allowing fluid into system under pressure but no return due to restriction. Took in offending clamp on the Monday and had a quiet word with WS manager. Same place 'serviced ' the car and ended up having to return as some little oik had filled the power fluid box to the brim instead of the full mark ( despite being told that I had checked levels before they got their mits on it ).

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Hirsty's

Obviously it alsmost impossible to make a "proper" diagnosis without seeing the vehicle, but I'd go along with the above. I'd hazard a guess that the discs have a "sticky bit" of the gunge that they are protected with for storage, and the knocking is the pad "hitting" this and jumping a bit. As you seem to have observed, if that is the cause it will go away with use. Richard

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beamendsltd

Sort of says it all about their workmanship if they are too ignorant or idle to clean the new discs off before fitting them doesn't it.

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EMB

In article , EMB writes

Genuine landrover Discs come with a very hard protective paint that is a sod to get off. The best way to remove it is to fit to the vehicle and let the brake pads do it for you.

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marc

Lacquer thinners and scotch brite has always worked for me. The accpeted trade practice is that discs are *clean* before use - and when playing with something as important as brakes you should get things perfect every time.

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EMB

Hm? That's what I was thinking.

I've done another 50 miles today and haven't heard or felt anything strange.

It's probably all OK.

Thanks for all your comments.

Judith

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Judith

In article , EMB writes

In the old days you could just degrease them with brake cleaner. nice a quick.

Now do you want to pay the £80+VAT per hour for some oily rag to polish the protective coating of your discs ?

Interestingly enough all other makes of LR discs still come lightly greased even the OE ones. I keep both on the shelf

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marc

Given that it takes maybe 5 minutes to clean a pair, yes I do. As a customer even at 7 quids worth of labour it's cheap compared to all the hassle and worry of strange braking noises. As a workshop proprietor I certainly want it done - I don't want complaints, reworks and worry from the customers, otherwise they'll spread their story and then my business will lose it's reputation for being "Not the cheapest garage, but bloody good mechanics and value for money" as it was put by one of my customers.

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EMB

Indeed....

Richard

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beamendsltd

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