Legality of bench seats

I don't think (for me) it would be the legality, it's the safety. I can't see them as safe as forward or rear facing.

Nige

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Nige
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My understanding is that seatbelts are still not mandatory for side facing seats.

I can't find anything online confirming this, however this:

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that belts aren't required on side facing seats on PSVs, but that's not very relevant to a landy of course. Paul

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From an MOT point side or rear facing seats don't require belt as for the safety aspect there are differing points of view as to whether more injury is caused by belts with the body and neck moving sideways in the event of a crash

Andy

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Andy.Smalley

Twas Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:07:01 -0700 when "Martin Edwards" put finger to keyboard producing:

My 110 has 6 lap belts for the bench seats in the back, as fitted in the factory so I assume they are all legal and proper for private and business use. however mine very rarely get used.

Regards. Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)

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Mr.Nice.

On or around Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:07:01 -0700, "Martin Edwards" enlightened us thusly:

you're OK for private use, but for any "organised" excursion involving children (erm... I forget the age cut-off for this, might be 16) then sideways bench seats are a no-no. Such things as scouts and the like, or school trips or anything "organised", also I think hire and reward work like taking children to school.

I don't think you need windows.

depending on how many you want to carry, you can get 4 forward-facing fold-up seats in the back of a van-bodied 110.

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Austin Shackles

However, if you are planning to use them on a regular basis I would be very careful. I had a pair in the back of my 110 and you eithr have to scramble out or fold one seat up. Fit 2 pairs and you double the problems. It would be very difficult to get people out in an emergency. Also bear in mind that folded up they would cover both wheel boxes end to end, so your only load area would be the floor. With the seats up you have minimal storage, and then only small, soft bags.

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John Moppett

Did I missowt there??? Have you put forward facin' seats in the back of your Disco?

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Mother

Seat belts aren't required at all on Stage Carriage vehicles, side facing or not. When was the last time you saw seat belts on a bus? And how do you provide standing passengers with a seat belt?

Alex

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Alex

How about rear-facing seats in the front?

Alex

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Alex

I guess it depends on the age of the vehicle, if it was legal when it was new, it probably is now.

I have taken my bench seats out, but I only have two seats belts in the vehicle, the middle and rear passengers have to do without, and that is quite legal for a vehicle of my age.

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Larry

I'm considdering a landy as a daily use car.

I have 4 kids. I occasionally do overnight hikes & canoe trips, so the long floor of a 110 would be useful.

My question.....

How legal are bench seats in the back?

I assume I'd need seatbelts, but would I need windows (Yes, i'd WANT them but would I NEED them?)

as a teacher, would I be able to occasionally be able to cart pupils around, assuming I had business use insurance?

Thanx in advance

Martin

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Martin Edwards

On or around Tue, 28 Sep 2004 20:51:16 GMT, Alex enlightened us thusly:

... Unless they're used for school transport, for children under 14. IIRC, ICBW, IANAL etc.

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Austin Shackles

On or around Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:33:38 +0100, John Moppett enlightened us thusly:

when the seats are in use, you can get stuff beside the seats on the wheelboxes, albeit only long thin stuff.

the fold-up seats (or the ones I had, anyway) do also remove without tools, for occasions when you want all the loadspace. I agree with the comments about access, although in practice it's not too much hassle, and really no worse than a 2-door car, where you have to fold up a front seat to get out from the back.

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Austin Shackles

On or around Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:38:21 +0100, Mother enlightened us thusly:

forward-facing 3-seater bench, with 3 belts. I'll be needing to get 7 anklebiters into it soon.

pictures to follow, as I said. I make take orders for the bit to bolt it down to :-)

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Austin Shackles

On or around Wed, 29 Sep 2004 02:20:22 +0100, "Larry" enlightened us thusly:

BUT, not if you do school transport, say. It's fine for private use.

The rules for "organised" trips with children have gotten very strict, and you have to have seat belts. One of my cars didn't have rear belts fitted, and I had to fit 'em. ditto the middle seat in the 110, which didn't on mine even have mountings, so I had to make those as well. Somewhere, I have the regulations for retro-fitting seat belts to minibuses and so on.

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Austin Shackles

You didn't get that TV fixed then ...? ;-)

T i m

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T i m

Austin makes part of a living carting the little bleeders around for other people who should have had a television. He has to put up with the little sods and didn't even have the fun of making them :-)

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EMB

On or around Wed, 29 Sep 2004 20:21:16 +1200, EMB enlightened us thusly:

on the flip side, I do get paid for it, even if not all that well, which is more'n most parents get. and I get to toss 'em out when they reach school or home (depending on time of day) and not have to bother about 'em thereafter. It could be worse.

I'll go and get the camera out of the motor and sort this webpage out, 's raining anyway, so not much chance of getting any jbex done outside.

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Austin Shackles

On or around Tue, 28 Sep 2004 21:38:21 +0100, Mother enlightened us thusly:

Here y'go:

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Austin Shackles

My 110CSW '98 has the lapbelts as well. Although they are not tested in the MoT, I still had to have them type approved on the first MoT I had at 12 months old ?? Still don't understand why I had to get an MoT at 12 mths instead of 3 yrs. However chief gopher at Bristol DVLA HQ insisted this was the procedure. !!!

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