OT : Parking ticket dispute

On or around Thu, 15 Jun 2006 14:12:10 +0100, Matthew Maddock enlightened us thusly:

so, there's a monster-wide pavement and she was parked on that, not on the actual street?

I imagine it depends on the status of the various bits of land. When there's a wide area off the street, if that's the situation, then often only part of it is public land, and some of it is private. If it's private land, then it's between her and the landowner. If it's public pavement, I don't think you can be done for parking on the yellow lines, but you might instead get done for parking on the pavement...

"Matthew Maddock" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@bt.com...

You might as well set fire to your balls & put them out with a mallet mate!! I have never got anywhere with the power mad idiots, even when parked totally legally!!

Nige

Yeah, exactly. You could actually park nose in to the wall and still leave plenty of room, but she was parked parallel to the wall.

That's the confusing bit - it is a infringement 10 - which is parking on double yellow lines.

Matt

I'm not sure either on this but the pavement is part of the street, if not the road! That is as Austin says, the public part of the pavement. What might help is that yellow lines are not valid on their own, there has to be an additional sign posted too, indicating in the case of single and broken lines the times at which they apply, think with doubles it says at all times. Check they are there and in good conition, it may be there is no case to answer, worth a look.

You have *such* a way with words!

Lizzy

Suspect you're right Nige, probably just a total waste of time. Whenever I've been issued a ticket I deliberately leave it beyond the 14 days for the "reduced" fine, and then sent the reduced fine anyway - just to be bloody minded. They've never chased me for the extra, even when I've left it a month from the ticket being issued. I never fill in my name or address either - if they want that info they can waste their own time getting it from the DVLA.

Speaking of setting fire to my balls, my wife is after having another baby - I'm not! Setting fire to my balls may be the best option to get out of it!

Matt

LOL!!!!

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Subaru WRX Range Rover 4.6 HSE (The Tank!)

We might be going on a summer holiday, the Greece Ball rally!!!!

It's one of my 'features' i do tend to rather speak my mind!!

I'm not one for beating around the bush.......!!

Nige

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Subaru WRX Range Rover 4.6 HSE (The Tank!)

We might be going on a summer holiday, the Greece Ball rally!!!!

Which I reckon is a good (albeit sometimes blunt) characteristic.

I get into some bother for speaking my mind - but believe it's better than 'not'.

Especially not with a mallet :-)

My sister was done for "parking other than on the highway". Mind you, she was in the verge of a road at the Stonehenge Festival....

Richard

Mentioning a desire for a small collection of 101 should provide the same results. I hide all sharp items around the house at such times.

and look for breaks in the lines, or the lines being badly faded, both causes for sucessful appeals on that telly prog about parking in London a while back.

Richard

Had a similar thing happen to me and I got off ! The law says ( some thing like ) parked on road pavement or verge , it really depends on what's in the area , ie is there a house entrance etc where a vehicle may be parked if a car is parked in a drive way 3 foot from the yellow etc , there is no min or max distance that the line has powers over what they are looking for in court is being over the line ie the line runs under or very close to the car if your parked

12 foot away from the line on a pavement it don't count ! Other things to look for Is the line unbroken , has it be terminated correctly with a yellow bar is all the details on the ticket correct make model etc , is it readable

I got off parking on a beach road 4 foot from the yellow line because I was not on the pavement or curb , the ticket describe the car as the make being a landroer and the model being a 4x4 it was a range rover classic and land rover should be 2 separate words and rover is spelt rover not roer, and there is no 4x4 model the parking attendants number was not clear . the magistrate aggread on all points and awarded me cost ! (120 quid as I had to travel from Coventry to yarmouth )

Also have a look at the payment details on the back should say something like pay in 14 day 30 quid after that 60 (or what ever it is ) some tickets have an error on another part that says 14 day 30 quid after that 65 if you have this the ticket is invalid

Good luck !

If it's any comfort, you can sometimes come out on top. Years ago I went Morris Dancing in Tunbridge Wells. As we were dancing the sun up we got there nice and early. Being considerate, I parked my motorbike along side a wall that jutted out into the road. There were no yellow lines along the wall, but there were ones along the street running up to the wall. Upon returing a couple of hours later to move it to the next venue, I found a Traffic Warden attaching a ticket. After a word or two about the lack of lines where I was actualy parked I had a thought. Bearing in mind this was pre-towing away days, I asked if I could get another ticket. No, was the answer, unless I moved it. Right, thinks I - the carpark where I'd been advised to park was £2.50 an hour (astronomic in those days), but as I'd already forked out £10 or £12 (I forget the exact amount) I figured that it was going to be far cheaper, and more secure, to leave it where it was.

I never did recieve any follow-up on the ticket either, so never paid.

Richard

Mother"

Oh I don't know, she can have her new baby if he can have a new car, sounds like a fair deal to me! Make sure that she agrees that if she wants the car to go, then they have to sell the baby too.

I reckon the above should stop her wanting to have any babies by the chap in question.. He might be looking for a new girlfriend though, but that's never a bad thing.

On or around Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:36:31 GMT, "GbH" enlightened us thusly:

worth checking the ownership of the ground in question, too - if it's private there's definitely no case. I suspect that if the charge is "did cause a vehicle to be parked on the street in contravention of double yellow line parking restrictions", OWTTE, then provided you can prove that it was on the pavement they also have no case, but IANAL.

On or around Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:33:10 +0100, beamendsltd enlightened us thusly:

I see, the guilty secrets are coming out now.

This sounds horribly similar to what was happening in Durham a few years ago - I don't know if anyone tried to challenge the tickets.

Basically a road with double yellow lines. There was a strip - cars' width - on one side which was not a pavement but would have been at pavement level beyond the kerb.

This strip had been used for parking for several years without issue but then the tickets started to appear.

It seems that the view was that the road and hence the restrictions extended from wall to wall not just kerb to kerb as one would expect. I never investigated further but that was the final straw and I withdraw all my business from the city. Never go there now.

Durham is motorists' hell. Don't even think of coming here. All that the city council wants is your money.