OT Referee

Kin eck - you're not my long lost sister are you???

I have two Birth Certificates and the same number of Passports. Legally, I could have three of each (and some wonder why I never know where I am...) ;-)

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Mother
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On or around Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:00:58 GMT, "Exit" enlightened us thusly:

ah, but I'm English by birth. mind, now that England are out it'd be fun if Portugal went on to win it.

I see France got knocked out be the Greeks...

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Austin Shackles

I thought you were a Brummie - close I guess ;-)

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Mother

Does that make me Mothers Sister? How confusing is that?!

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The Neffalump

On or around Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:39:26 +0100, Mother enlightened us thusly:

nah, parents both hail from south London.

I was actually born, according to my birth certificate, in the district of Windsor and Eton, or somesuch.

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Austin Shackles

[THUD]

Another wise exile! :-)

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Mother

There's a quarter of me from The Mumbles, but I rarely admit it! :) I'd quite like to see Portugal win it too - nothing against their team, just their groundsmen. . . . . .

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Exit

Of course, that didn't dawn on me until you just mentioned it. Now it all makes sense.

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Tony Boom

I don't mind getting knocked out first round if it's fair. It's when everyone on the planet except one knows the goal was good but still dissallows it. Even every Portugese native knows they didn't legitimately win it. The shame they must have felt in victory must be a whole lot worse than what we felt in defeat.

Anyway, Why are Englishmen better lovers than Frenckmen?

Because they can stay on top for 90 minutes and still come second!

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Tony Boom

On or around Sun, 27 Jun 2004 19:38:31 +0100, Tony Boom enlightened us thusly:

glad I wasn't drinking coffee at that point.

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Austin Shackles

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Boom" Newsgroups: alt.fan.landrover Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:23 PM Subject: Re: OT Referee

Actually, the goal was disallowed because one of the England team had his arm on the Portugese goalie's shoulder as he came down, and from some angles it looked as if he was obstructing the goalie. Personally, I don't think there was any genuine or deliberate obstruction, BUT it is an accepted rule of the game that there is a referee to make decisions based on what he thinks he sees at the time, and that his decision is final, so until the system changes and we have tv playback (see note below please) prior to a decision being made, stop bleating! Oh, and if blunderboy beckham was worth his wages he'd have realised the condition of the penalty spot was far from ideal and done something about it rather than try to put the ball on the moon!

Badger. 'scuse me, going to find my flak-jacket!

(oh joy, all those actors on the field creating merry hell and wasting even more time whilst the ref consults the videotape, only to find that they were trying it on all along! 90 minutes of inane boredom stretched out to 120 plus!)

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Badger

In message , Austin Shackles writes

That would make you from Berks

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hugh

In message , Badger writes

Not true. The referee clearly signalled to Sol Campbell that he had given the free kick for pushing. Unfortunately being colour blind he didn't realise that Sol was actually pushing John Terry, and it ain't a foul for pushing your own team mate!!

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hugh

Anyways, it doesn't really matter. It's only a game - real sport has spark plugs! Teehee. Badger.

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Badger

On or around Sun, 27 Jun 2004 22:41:46 +0100, hugh enlightened us thusly:

Bucks, actually. but close.

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Austin Shackles

On or around Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:02:23 +0100, "Badger" enlightened us thusly:

unless it's a diesel...

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Austin Shackles

On or around Mon, 28 Jun 2004 07:39:46 +0100, Austin Shackles enlightened us thusly:

on which line, I see that some lot had a diesel entered at Le 24 heures du Mans this year. didn't do any good, but interesting that they tried.

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Austin Shackles

thusly:

I was recently involved with a diesel discovery rally car (featured in latest LRO) running lpg over diesel as a power enhancement, and no matter what I did to the boost or fuelling (diesel and lpg) it just wouldn't perform all that well. You could get more bhp and torque, but you couldn't utilise it due to the slower accellerating characteristics of the diesel engine. What LRO didn't tell you was that on the Snowman rally, even though the finish place looked fairly good, it was the LAST finisher!! I think it was also about second last on the Granite rally. Major problem for rallying is it has no anti-roll bars and was running on the wrong rubber, and an owner who'se wallet is sewn up with anchor chain! Like I said, REAL sport has spark plugs. Diesels aren't real sport! Teeheehee. And before you remind me Austin - yes, I know, I drive a diesel car! Badger.

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Badger

On or around Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:12:35 +0100, "Badger" enlightened us thusly:

you might need to lighten the flywheel and so on...

but in the case of a turbo, it's seemed to me that the most critical thing is keeping the engine on the sweet spot of the turbo. our 300 TDi disco can be made to shift bloody fast for a 2-ton vehicle with, lets face it, not that much power, provided you keep the revs somewhere between about 2500 and

3500.

and all that's been done to that'n is to get the fuelling right (ish) but not touched the boost. not even checked it. Oh, and block off the EGR, of course :-)

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Austin Shackles

This may be an over generalisation but one really good reason for running "something different" is the benefits you get in sponsorship. It rarely matters if you do as well as the other vehicles because the amount of publicity/attention you get is substantially higher than the other competitors get and that can then be turned into money by demonstrating to sponsors that the publicity is there. Without publicity you don't get sponsorship. The fact that you know that someone entered a diesel at Le Mans proves the case to a certain extent.

The second benefit of running a diesel in speed competitions is that they often get their own class and a lacklustre performance compared to the rest of the field can give you a class win whilst vehicles that did better than you overall come away with nothing. Again this is a good selling point for potential sponsors. Much better to say "we won our class at Le Mans this year" than "we finished 22nd at Le Mans this year" ( I don't know the sports car class systems so this may be a bad example).

cheers

Dave W.

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Dave White

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