All,
Sorry bout this, but there is another stupid government petition i need some peeps so sign.
This one is close to me, as i work for FujifilmUK and i need a job to pay for my Defender!
Good god.
Mark Solesbury uttered summat worrerz funny about:
Before I put my name to anything I'd like to know the facts, do you have a link to the proposed legistlation?
I can only think that any such legislation would be intended to stop the likes of predatory peadophiles stalking their victims and the like of the paparatzi hounding persons to death.
That aside I think recent demonstrations from number 10 have shown they don't give a monkeys about petitions and will carry on regardless, at least until election time.
It's not a problem of such a scale that it needs mass persecution of the innocent to tackle.
I used to do amateur photography and did my best to keep people out of my pics because on the whole I'm not over-fond of people. Didn't stop some chump following me with a suspicious look while I walked along the banks of a river with my camera, once I was away from his kids he left me alone. If I wanted to f*ck kids I wouldn't pick fat, ugly ones like his, but I'm sure he didn't think of that. If he wasn't with a bunch of other knuckle-draggers I'd have pointed that out.
Requiring people to carry a license to use a camera is like requiring them to have a license to throw pebbles into the sea, only Dorset is mad enough to suggest that! What with every device around having a camera on it, it's a daft suggestion from top to toe. You can just imagine the jobsworths twisting your arm because you've gone into a shopping centre, seen something that you think the wife might like, taken a photo of it to show her and then some knuckle-dragging security guard is throwing you out for unlicensed use of a camera!
Can you say "tax"?
Stuart
Its complete Cock. Don't bother signing it!
This is what i get for listening to my boss.. I get an email, which has some text in that has no relation to the actual motion!. Its like Chinese whispers.
You are correct lee, the proposal is here
:-[
Can you say "desperation to be seen to be doing something"?
Too many people wanting to solve problems, and too few problems to solve.
Indeed.
Agreeded - what ARE the proposed changes though? link?
My boss sent me the link, and i never bothered to check it out.
Have now, and wished id never posted it!!
Its still s**te though...
Mark Solesbury uttered summat worrerz funny about:
No problem :-) We've all done it.
And yes you're right.
Lee
On or around Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:49:46 -0000, "Lee_D" enlightened us thusly:
I'm opposed to any such changes in law however phrased or framed.
On or around Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:52:11 +0900, Mark Solesbury enlightened us thusly:
I'm glad you did. now, what was the petition I was going to start...
Austin Shackles uttered summat worrerz funny about:
How can you be opposed if you don't know what they are?
/me
Lee D
How about some legislation to prevent hasty, pasted-together legislation driven by headlines?
That mean that if you get caught on camera doing owt in London you can walk up to the speed/congestion/cctv camera in question and demand to see it's license, and when it doesn't respon, destroy it's equipment then?
On or around Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:37:52 -0000, "Lee_D" enlightened us thusly:
eh? If anyone proposes legalisation which seeks to inhibit my freedom to go about my business in a law-abiding way, then I oppose it. I'm not bothered too much about the phrasing of it, I'm against more or less any restrictive legislation.
I do however believe strongly that it's each individual's responsibility to choose their actions so as do avoid or minimise injury to others.
Austin Shackles uttered summat worrerz funny about:
Devils advocate then , on the pretext you mention you are opposed to Driving license, MOT, CRB checks as conditions of employment etc?
:-)
On or around Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:55:57 -0000, "Lee_D" enlightened us thusly:
yep, more or less. OK, I'm not massively against driving licences and MOTs, but they keep making them more difficult and more expensive. CRB is good as far as it goes but it's ineptly designed, wasteful of resources and does nothing to catch people who haven't been had up for anything. It's a typical bit of kneejerk legislation triggered by one or two very tragic events, rather like the recent(ish) changes to gun law. It was already illegal to shoot people, it was already illegal to carry loaded weapons in a public place, etc. But "Something had to be done" because a few people got killed (incidentally, many, many more get killed on the roads every year).
CRB derives from similar circumstances. 2 young people got killed by a nutter, which is of course a tragedy for their families and reflects poorly on our society as a whole. On investigation, had CRB been in place, he might not have got the job. Of course, he might still have done the deed. And he'd still have got the job if the CRB had come up negative 'cos he'd either not done anything before or not been caught before.
Did anyone else spot recently that more people die of hospital acquired infections every year than die on the roads? About 3,500 on the roads, a little over 5,000 die from something they pick up in a hospital. How about shovelling all the "road safety" cash into cleaners for the wards!
On or around Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:21:46 +0000, Ian Rawlings enlightened us thusly:
I reckon the need crud-cameras in the hospitals, meself. After all, speed cameras can single-handedly solve the road safety problem, can't they?
the crud-cameras could be positioned so as to catch the contract cleaners stopping for tea-breaks and sweeping dust under the carpets.
Valid point though. 3500 a year (assuming accuracy in the figures) is not much less than 10 a day, *every* day. compare with the number of people shot by gun-toting maniacs in a year... and compared the rabid frothing about said maniacs with the who-gives-a-f*ck attitude to road safety.
In message , Ian Rawlings writes
And about 30,000 (thirty thousand) older people die unnecessarily each winter, through cold and malnutrition. That's about 300,000 since New Labour came to power.
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