Severe steering vibration

Troubled of Trowbridge here.

Recently my 1990 Defender 110 County 200Tdi has developed a severe steering vibration at around 45mph, it disappears at beyond 50mph. At one point it was noticeable, but not significant, since I've been trying to cure it it's been getting worse and worse!

Last week it was sufficiently violent that the whole car shakes. Since I have tried a few things it has got much worse, it happens at a lower speed and it doesn't go away so easily. It's like the "death wobble" but this is not instigated by a pot hole but purely by speed.

What I have tried -

A while ago (about 9 months) the front prop shaft had both spiders changed for new.

As a result of a recent puncture I have changed one of the wheels on the front nearside and that made no difference.

Tonight I changed the panhard rod bushes - no effect, in fact it got worse!

Lastly I tightened the nut on the drop arm (it has worked loose before), it took about a half turn.

As a result of the last change when accelerating to 40 a very serious wobble started and would go away until the speed had dropped to around

20 mph.

I have jacked up the front end and whilst there is a small movement in the front swivels, I wouldn't have said that it was significant (but I'm no expert!)

At the moment I daredn't drive it, but I'm not sure what to do next - I I come to the font of all Landrover knowledge for guidance!

So, any help please chaps and chapesses!

Cheers

Peter

Reply to
puffernutter
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Steering damper first, remove to check or misshapen front tyres.

Reply to
Oily

Lack of swivel bearing preload.

Reply to
EMB

My money is on this too. Had the same on a RRC.

Lee D

Reply to
Lee_D

Or a knock off-road has bent the track rod, nocking the tracking severely out? Had that on a racer once, similar wobble. Badger.

Reply to
Badger

A thought, but I don't do much off roading in this one and certainly not recently. The worst it does is the byeways on Salisbury Plain!

First thing tomorrow I will swap front tyres for rears. If that has no effect I will remove the propshafts one at a time, if that fails I'll check the pre-load on the swivels.

It looks like that the vibration was being absorbed by other components in the system (panhard and drop arm) and when those were brought back into spec. there is no longer any absorption for them in the system.

The joys of owning a LR!

Cheers

Peter

Reply to
puffernutter

Front to rear wheel swap and the vibration has gone!

Easy as that - at least it's got new panhard bushes and a much tighter drop arm as well!

No obvious defects on the rims or tyres. At some point I'll drop the car down to my local tyre place and get them to check the balance.

Cheers

Reply to
puffernutter

:)

Reply to
Nige

On or around Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:33:37 +0100, "Lee_D" enlightened us thusly:

well, speaking as one who has on and off being trying to cure a RRC of shimmy-of-death disease, I reckon it'll be all of 'em.

On mine, steering damper made most difference despite apparently being functional, but swivel preload also made a difference, and it's still a bit prone on hitting bumps.

On what is now your Clumber Spaniel Wagon, I had a really violent shimmy triggered by bumps and that was cured completely by replacing a totally fscked damper - it had literally no damping effect at all.

crappy tyres also had an effect on the RRC: puttign decent, matched ones on made it better but didn't cure it. As I say, it's still a bit prone but then again I replaced the steering damper with a second-hand one which was in better nick, not a new one; might be that a new one would sort it out properly.

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Austin Shackles

"Austin Shackles" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

If none of the cheap solutions given seem to work then change the shocks and the steering column. A tiny amount of play in the column can cause the symptoms you describe, it's easy and fairly cheap to change too. TonyB

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TonyB

On or around Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:48:30 +0100, "TonyB" enlightened us thusly:

done that already, it had slight wear and made it a bit better. Haven't done bushes, but they don't fail the MOT so I assume no huge play in them.

Reply to
Austin Shackles

Well, on the advice of a neighbour I removed the brand new LR Panhard bushes and fitted blue polybushes.

A darn site easier to fit and with 200 miles under my belt now, no sign of vibration at any speed!

Happy bunny.

Now off to Beijing for a fortnight!

Thanks for all the advice.

Cheers

Peter

Reply to
puffernutter

Thats a long drive in a LR !... But the food's good when you get there..

Dave B.

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Dave Baxter

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