Slightly OT: Fuel prices

No Idea....

I filled up the golf in Leeds the other day on the M1 and it was 1.19

Tesco have pure Rapeseed oil at 52p ATM ... branded Pura vegetable oil. Sainsburys also do a 2 litire bottle of Corn oil at 1.02 per bottle.

You know it makes sense ... ;)

Which leads me to another topic, why aren't there illuminated signs on Motorways here, like there are in France, showing fuel prices for the next 4 or 5 filling stations with mileage to each so they actually compete instead of charging what they can get away with. Mind you I've always thought France was governed for the average Frenchman as apposed to here where it seems to be governed for the very rich and business, the average Englishman doesn't get a look in except for paying Tax.

In a dim and distant universe , Pacman muttered:

It's all a conspiracy to dumb down the population. You never seen to see anyone getting angry, demonstrating or staging demonstrations to oppose things anymore.

A few years ago, people would have been barricading petrol stations and motorways before now. Yet, the public are happy to sit idly by these days. Same with ID cards and all manner of other stuff this government is doing!

Must be the fluoride in the water or the aspartame in the drinks....

:-(

That was just the truckers and they were trying to negotiate reductions in their *own* fuel, never mind everyone else. We just had to sit in traffic queues for hours. Try the french system, where public transport is on strike and strikers have been lighting fires on railway tracks to stop trains from running at all.

It seems the truckers aren't bothered this time. Perhaps they got their reductions elsewhere?

There have been a few large-scale marches, e.g. banning hunting and the war marches.

Or you're wringing your hands a little too hard ;-)

As for petrol prices, I was listening to an australian radio show recently and it was noted that no country has gotten the message about global warming and resource usage in general quite as well as the UK, and they were talking about the population, not just the government. Perhaps we're not quite so pissed off about fuel prices this time, or perhaps we've twigged that 10p on the price of fuel only adds about £6 to a tank and that doesn't make much difference unless you're going through masses of the stuff. A tank a week would only cost another £24 or so per month which to most of the population isn't much to get het up about especially as we are apparently amongst the most concerned about climate change etc. Chances are though I think it's just that the truckers aren't having so much hassle this time around and they were the ones hit the hardest.

Anyhow, when are your flying saucer buddies going to give us planetary drive engines? ;-)

Or they are well aware that the government wouldn't allow them or anyone else to hold the country to ransome again. IIRC there were some new laws brought in after the fuel protests a few years back...

If that was the case you'd hear them mouthing off in the press or holding legal protests this time, but nothing, so no it can't be that.

Those strikes are to do with them still want the right to retire at 50 on 3/4 of their final salary! Difference with this strike is that the general public aren't backing the strikers so no major disruption (aside from to commuters!) yet.

We had the fishermen striking and blocking the roads & ports the other week, but (fortunately) as yet, not the truckers - though I'm sure I heard on the radio that they were thinking of it.

Matt

Anything more than 2 people gathering without a permit is an illegal protest and can have them locked up.

Reckon if 30 truckers wrote to the chief constable/county council/magistartes/home office (who ever has to sanction protests) and asked for a permit to block a motorway and blockade a refinery they would get it?

We do have the right to protest, but only in groups less than 2.

On or around Sun, 25 Nov 2007 01:39:03 -0800 (PST), Pacman enlightened us thusly:

dunno. I've been thinking for some time that it's been held down by the psychological £1/l barrier, and once it all got over that it'd carry on going up. I can't say I'm pleased to be right about this, though.

Mostly round here it's between 109 and 111 for diesel. However, the 111 is a recent change, twas less than that last week, so I reckon the local place which is currently 109 will catch up, they're normally the same (both shell).

On or around Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:41:06 +0000, Ian Rawlings enlightened us thusly:

and that, believe me, you notice, if you're on a fixed price contract.

Cheapest in the area is Shell at £1.04, which is where the Volvo gets fed.

When will it end?

-- Thanks Paul

I'm going to sit on me hands what I will say is we are being conned globally with the approval of governments still veg oil is 50p a litre at Lidl so arsk me do I look bovvered? Derek Kato 200Tdi Disco vegoil+ve

True enough Ian my company is forking out another £40 (approx) a week to keep me out on the road I'd rather see that in my pay ( unlikely ) Derek

The Road Haulage Association are in the process of asking their members=20 how much support there'd be for protests. They'll see how the land lies=20 with the industry before making any public statements.

--=20 Regards

Steve G

How is whacking up the tax on fuel helping fight global warming exactly ? I don't see the funding being hypothocated into a special research fund into sequestering technologies, or developing better fuel cells or, well anything really, except screwing us all.

And then there are the Chinese and Indians, whose CO2 emissions will utterly dwarf ours in a few years. How will us being concerned about it matter a toss.

Steve

In much the same way that ID cards will protect us just like they did in New York on 11th Sept the motherf*ckers had been issued with ID cards US security was aware they were in the country and they had passports so there was no doubt as to their identities what a lot of good it did. I realise that we have a bunch of weasels who will use any excuse to spend our money on any scheme that will put that money in the pockets of their pals be it pointless stupid IT exercises or adding more politicians to the gravy train.! Derek

so if you had say 500 seperate protests of two or less people in the same vacinity.......

I am a group of less than two.

Well, making it too bloody expensive to buy I'd have thought ;-)

However that's not what I meant, I meant that people in this country are apparently more prepared to make sacrifices in the name of environmental concerns than most other of the richest nations. Doesn't mean we make the right choices of course, e.g. hybrid cars.