My Td5 has been cured.................. unfortunately at great expense................ Waste gate on turbo had seized so new turbo..............................£759 + labour + VAT ;-(
Still at least it is done.
Dave it's nice to have it back on the road ain't it!
For any one else reading this with Turbo problems I can recomend
May be completley different turbo and costs involved to that of Daves but worth considering if you do have a tempremental turbo.
No interest in the company other than being a very happy customer.
Lee D
-- Project Percy - Jaguar 4.2 and Auto in to Series IIa 88 see it @
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I was not too surprised about the price. what DID surprise me was that the WASTE GATE valve was not a separate unit, cos it looks like it is all detachable from main body of turbo. Still, main dealers know what they are doing....................................................................... .................... ;-)
It is actually listed as not being available separately on Microcat, so there it is. At least it FLIES past 60mph now
Dave "Lee_D"
That's the way things are going - Geunine Parts no longer supply the bushes for steering dampers as a separate part, you have to buy the whole thing! Luckily the pattern people are more sensible...
Richard
Cough....Sputter..... Lord above! Do you sometimes feel that you have been 'done over'?
Huw
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Thats pretty much standard practice with turbo's, they usually come complete with wastegate assy.
Final invoice? ? £1234.63.................................................................... ...
Parts used: ADU6847L - Washers - 4 of - 0.14 each - 0.56 ERR6768 - Gasket - 1 of - 2.01 - 2.01 ESR2033 - Nut - 10 of - 0.71 - 7.10 ESR3737 - Gasket - 1 of - 1.53 - 1.53 PMF000040 - Turbo - 1 of - 759.00 - 759.00 PNT100030 - Gasket - 1 of - 0.50 - 0.50 MHK100620 - Sensor - 75.00 - 75.00 Labour ? ? ? ? ? 204.00
All plus the dreaded VAT.
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You've been done more like:-(
8 hours of labour or more to change a bleeding turbo? Not even old enough to have all the bolts rusted up!I bet a few careful knocks with a hammer and some WD40 would have sorted it. It would have certainly been worth a go before going to all that expense because it was likely not the actuator that was stuck but the mechanical side.
At the rate above these things deserve a residual value of a peanut by the time they are ten years old due to potentially ridiculous repair costs. An engine overhaul of bearings, pistons, rings and seals, on a four cylinder should not cost that much!
Huw
£1234.63.............................................................. ......
I hope that at least you kept the old turbo to send to a competent rebuilder so that you have retained some capital.
Huw
204 is much more likely to be 3 hours labour.
Truly horrendous for a part which should last for ten years and very worrying from a marque which has been built on the image (mostly deserved) of making everlasting vehicles.
Tim Hobbs
'58 Series 2 '77 101FC Ambulance '95 Discovery V8i
No, old turbo was sent back - after I checked it. If I had kept it, it would have been an EXTRA £500. Labour I do not feel was too excessive, they did have to run the vehicle on test book first to determine the problem. I run a Td6 Vogue as well, so I KNOW how dear Landrover labour is (fortunately, I took out the service pack option on mine).
I do not feel 'done over' as you put it. Yes, it was expensive, in some peoples eyes, not in mine though, it was worth every penny. but it is one of the things you put up with if you own a landrover.
£1260 for a turbo, even a trick variable vane type turbo is grossly excessive.
You may well be in an expensive area and you did get it done at a main dealer, so maybe the labour was not too bad. Just imagine what the bill would have been for a bigger job though!
I have run various Range Rover, Discovery, Defender and Mercedes products and currently run a BMW X5 and a Toyota LC Amazon among others including a LR 110, so I do know the costs associated with running big expensive vehicles. It does not mean that I am dulled or blind to real value of money and believe me, you did not get anywhere near value for money for this minor repair which could possibly have been carried out without any parts being needed [since the turbine was in fine fettle].
You say it is one of the things you put up with if you own a Land Rover as if it were a virtue for crying out loud! I would prefer to think it sad that a British marque was associated with such horrendous running costs. In time past, Land Rover reliability and build quality could at least be partially excused by reasonable parts prices and that any capable mechanic could manage a repair. It seems now that the tack is changing and they are marketing more at yuppies who have no real idea of value and think the image is worth the expense. No offence intended as this is a generalisation which may not apply to anyone specifically.
Huw
On or around Sun, 5 Oct 2003 14:00:20 +0100, "Huw" enlightened us thusly:
buggrem that's wot I say. LR Dealer in Ipswich quoted summat over 250 quid to replace a vacuum pump on a 300 TDi, not long back. Pump, identical to the one fitted originally (same make), I got for 109 from Paddock, plus I think it was 11 quid for next-day delivery. I seriously doubt that the LR dealers pay that much, so that leaves about 150 quid for labour. And how long does it take to change the pump? about 15 minutes...
*and* they tried to say that the problem (lack of servo vacuum is a pretty easy thing to diagnose, and the pump was leaking oil...) was caused by fitting non-genuine brake pads... yeah, right, so it works fine for several thousand miles and then suddenly the pads stop braking... I think not.If I knew their name I'd put it here...
identical to
They probably get 50% discount off list for stock orders. Factors would probably get the same part in a different brand package for a further 25% less, hence the ability to supply at about half price.
Huw
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