Ticking sound from a 300 tdi engine

Hi all

I have a 98 Discovery with a 300 TDi engine in it. It has 111000 miles on it and was well serviced by reputable main dealer. Today having driven 200 Motorway miles at 60 70ish I noticed that there was a distinct ticking noise that varied with the engine speed coming from what I think is the rear of the block. It sounds like what the tappets on the old OHC Cortina would sound like if it had cam problems. It is much more pronounced when the engine is cold and not bad at all when hot.

Any suggestions and are there any web sites that might teach me how diesel engines work so as i dont need to ask silly questions like this again?

Thanks

Hugh

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Hugh Hogan
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Hi Hugh I don't have an answer for you except to say that it is not a silly question and I am sure someone(s) will be able to help you out.

S
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Silas

"Hugh Hogan" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

I have no idea if this is the correct answer but I once had that on a Pug

504. I was told it might be a bit of dirt on an injector and not to worry about it. Anyway, it disappeared as mysteriously as it came so I never did get to the bottom of it.

I suppose you could loosen a feed pipe to each injector in turn and see if it goes away.

Derry

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Derry Argue

In message , Hugh Hogan writes

It could be the head gasket.

Put your hand down the back of the block and at the cylinder head gasket you will feel it blowing into your hand .

It is very common on tdi's for the head gasket to blow straight out the back of the block .

Also try with the oil filler cap removed to see if it is blowing there.

Also there are small caps on top of the valves these can fall apart and suddenly make the tappet gap much larger. These are very easy to change.

Hope this helps

Reply to
Marc Draper

I have to agree with the head gasket theory, at least it was on my 300TDi.

cyberwraith

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cyberwraith

....and if it is fix it quick. The 200Tdi engine I am rebuilding was destroyed by this fault.

Steve

Reply to
Steve Taylor

Obvously remote diagnosis is difficult, but a distinct "tick tick" in time with the engine could be the head gasket, but then it could be the vacuum pump, or an injector, or etc etc.

Run the engine with the oil filler cap off - does it "chuff" a bit? That would indicate head gasket. You can often see soot marks where it is blowing (if it is). An oily air filter is also another symptom.

Richard

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beamendsltd

beamendsltd wrote in news:98a3bb774d% snipped-for-privacy@btconnect.com:

On the Peugeot 504's I've seen that had blown a head gasket (and it seems it was a common problem) there will be air blowing back into the coolant expansion bottle making the cooland look as if it is boiling when the engine is revved. Also, possible green anti-freeze staining on the outside of the expansion reservoir where it has over-flowed. But I can't say the symptoms are the same in a Land Rover because I haven't seen it...

Derry

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Derry Argue

Could also be a leaky exhaust manifold gasket. My mates (petrol) series 3 used to do it. It would stop if you bunged a load of exhaust paste along the edge of the manifold (until the paste fell off!)

Took him ages to work that out! It was only leaving the tiniest amount of soot where it was leaking too.

Reply to
Tom Woods

In message ,

They can be the same...but in this case they will not.

You are talking about the gasket failing between the cylinder and the water jacket.

This case it is probably between the cylinder and fresh air (straight out the back if the block) or the cylinder and a pushrod hole (chuffing through the oil filler cap and making the air filter oily).

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Marc Draper

Another vote for the head gasket. Sorry! Your symptoms matched mine exactly and it was long time before the penny dropped. There was no crankcase pressurisation in my case. One thing that I couldn't understand until after the event was the dirty sootiness on the top of the inlet manifold (under the insulating cover over the rocker cover). There was also a lot of this mess on the bulkhead at the rear of the cylinder head.

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Dougal

Could be exhaust manifold leak/crack.

S
Reply to
Silas

Sounds like the exhaust manifold. It will be quieter when it gets hotter, as it expands and takes some of the gap up :-)

Run the engine and feel for chuffing around the manifold where the noise is :-)

Reply to
Neil Brownlee

I had similar in my 300TDi two years back. Is there a loss of power? Mine was the cylinder head gasket but it sounded more like a steam engine rather than a tick. Still some might say tick, so if you are losing power also consider the head gasket.

cyberwraith

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cyberwraith

I had exactly the same problem with my 300tdi Disco.

Changed the exhaust and all sorts. Turned out that number 4 injector clamp was loose and the injector was letting compression past when the engine was under load.

cyberwraith wrote:

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kezoe

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