LAtest Lexus GPS DVD version

It's not the version, it's the system.

Toyota's system sucks rocks.

The only thing woefully deficient is your level of knowledge of how to properly work the nav system in your Lexus. Did you know Navteq supplies the map data for both Lexus and Honda/Acura? I guess 5.6M points of interest isn't enough; there needs to be 5.6M....and twenty.

Corky wrote in news:0kbgi29cobqkqmshvpje89qkp4atcjeg3p@

The Lexus (Toyota) system has very few points of interest. My Garmin has most of the places in Las Vegas, The Lexus (updated last year) has only the major casinos and hotels and a couple more big places. I hope they will improve it for the next update.

I bring you Corky's other posts in this group:

Greg's posted rant: It sounds as if you turned off "allow freeways" in your route preference. Make sure there is no "slash" across the interstate freeway symbol that shows up on your map screen after you've input the destination and the screen is displaying the route overview.

Greg's posted rant: Odd, as the town of Lompoc, CA is definitely in the database, as are the Toyota dealerships in town. Try inputting by POI Category, City Center, and Automotive category.

Addendum to above rant by Greg: It also sounds like you didn't change the search area to US2: CA, NV

Greg's posted rant: Again, if you input by POI Category, the next screen asks if you want to use City Center, Current Position, or Map.

Corky's rant part II:

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Corky's rant part III:

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Greg's new rant: a wasted free XM radio on the ungrateful and unwilling to learn. And I'll take some of the cotton from between your ears to sop up the pus oozing out of my brain. (Sorry, couldn't resist).

I put it up to the group: Was I ranting or just wasting my breath posting explanations for each of Corky's "problems"?

My recollection is that the DEFAULT on the Lexus nav is to ASSUME that highways are not allowed.

If my recollection is correct, THAT'S A PRETTY STUPID default choice by the programmers, isn't it?

Compound that stupidity with the poorly organized menu system and you have a lot of frustration for first time users of this system.

I'm pretty computer literate and I found the Lexus nav system difficult to "navigate" at first until I got to know it. Even now after 2+ years of using it, sometimes I still have to go back and forth through the menu system a couple times to accomplish what I want because the menu system is not very intuitive. This is particularly irritating when I have to get someplace on a certain schedule.

Don't get me wrong. I think the Lexus nav is great when it works, but it could be a lot better if some simple and obvious changes were made to the menu system

Why should you have to go to POI Category to enter a City as a destination? What does one thing have to do with the other? Further, how does going to POI Catergory allow you to set the nav system to guide you to the selected city?

The logic of the menu system is dumb and not intuitive.

This one seems like a repeat of the same old rant that's been repeatedly explained to Corky, but he doesn't or refuses to get it. Corky, are you learning disabled, lazy, or just stubborn?

Another thing I find irritating about the Lexus nav is that if I don't know if a certain street is a "rd" or "ave" or whatever, it won't let you narrow the choices by going to the city name without backing out and reentering the street name. Do other nav systems have this problem, or is this just another aspect of the Lexus nav's poor menu design?

I agree it would be pretty stupid if that were the case, but the default is set to actually allow freeways/toll roads/ferrys/seasonally restricted roads. I suspect Corky accidentally turned it off.

Sometimes I forget as well how to get to a certain menu. Lexus actually listens to customer suggestions and many times will incorporate them into future products. If you've got some, call the 800# and it will be reviewed, not just circular filed.

Corky said you can't input guidance to only a City; you must have an address. Using POI category WILL allow you to set a city as a destination WITHOUT using an address.

If you press the destination button, then address, there's a "city name" button on the address screen. Enter the city name first then press "street"; that will narrow down the choices with no backing out required.

I think my recollection is correct because:

(a) I remember having this problem when I first got the car, (b) I remember having this problem when my nav was reset to the default, and (c) FINDING the switch that turns off this default was a pain in the ass because the menu system is so poorly laid out.

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Further,

What do POIs have to do with setting a city as a destination without using an address?

You have just illustrated how incredibly dumb the menu layout is!

True. But I often enter the address first and the nav gives me a choice of cities. That's the easier way to do it if the list of cities is small. Unfortunately, if the street name is a common one, I get too many cities to wade through. At that point, the nav system should let me narrow the cities by entering a name with out typing in the address again, but it doesn't. What a pain in the ass. There's no way to know how many cities will pop up until you input the street address and then it's too late to avoid entering the street address twice.

Unfortunately, if the street name is a common one, I get too

I often enter the city name first.

To clarify, the setting is not accessed by pressing the Menu button then default. The icons for highway, ferry, etc will however, come up in a little box on the upper right side of the route overview screen every time you enter a destination.

I concede that BMW/Mercedes/Honda-Acura/Garmin/Magellan/ keepaddingnamesforallthenavsystemsoutthere probably each have functionality that is "better" than Lexus. I put emphasis on "better" because it's a matter of opinion, which everyone is entitled to. What gets me is folks who complain about something when clearly, they're not using it properly. It's like saying my Lexus is a piece of junk because my Verizon bluetooth phone won't download my phonebook into the car (It won't download to a PC either because Verizon wants you to pay for a service which gives you the privelige of transferring your contacts).

The POI being "city center" is the fastest way to receive guidance to a City. The POI could just as easily be a restaurant, post office, whatever. The point is, you don't need an address to receive guidance to a city, just choose a POI, any POI, and you'll get there. Choosing a POI is faster than typing in an address anyway. But, wait, I'm sure there's a nav system out there that just allows you to input only a city name and get a guidance, so that makes it better than Lexus! Yay! Lexus-haters rejoice!

Okay, so if the name of the street is "Main" then you'd be better off entering the city first. If it's "manthiswholethingisabouttalkedtodeath", then it would be safe to go with address first.

Recognizing that no system is perfect for everyone out there, I prefer to learn how to best operate the system knowing the limitations/quirks rather than just trash it because it doesn't work how a Garmin/Magellan/tomtom works. So, to everyone out there: yes, the Lexus nav system is not perfect, and I apologize for trying to give people pointers on how to get the desired results!

Oh and BTW, Hatteras, NC is an island with a population of 3,107 and nine restaurants (according to Google), all clustered on a one mile stretch of HWY 12. If some people need guidance for that, well...

As I suggested, but you ignored, stick a pin in yourself and let the pus out! Who the hell are you to impugn my need for restaurant info on Hatteras Island, whether the population is 12 or twelve million.

Maybe I should have made my suggestion clearer: take your head in your hand, and pull real hard to get it out of your anus!!

I drove our Lexus across country, and found the NAVI to be woefully inadequate. One man's opinion, but since I doubt you have ever driven farther than the local McDonalds, its still one person's opinion.

Lexus at least respected it, and gave me a free XM radio as partial compensation without further ado. Let's hope they can catch up with Honda one of these days!

Corky, with statements like this, you continue to demonstrate what a moron you are.

Bullshit. The nav kept telling you to get off the highway because you didn't have the setting right. How many times do people have to tell you this before it gets through you thick head, moron?

Either they're dumber than you (highly unlikely), or they just thought that an XM radio was a small price to pay to get a moron like you the f*ck out of their store.

Too bad you are such an ignoramus that your think only you know the correct settings for the NAVI. You. too, should reach down into your anus and pull your head out. Then when you have it firmly out, put it, too, on the dung heap!!!! If you knew the answer to my original question, you would have answered it instead of blowing it off!! But then again, this is the pin head forum of LEXUS users!!

Ladie, Ladies... Let's be civil.