Bought the T5 :-)

Just returned from viewing the Volvo. A nice surprise I got was that the owner was a Volvo dealer mechanic, evident from the greasy blue shirt the the logo and local dealer's name. No proof of this but it's obviously well serviced: fresh coolant and oil so clean you have to hold the dipstick at an angle to see it. Peering underneath, there's even fresh grease on the endstops where the steering hits full lock. Full service history consists of a complete collection of invoices and checklists, right from the pink slip for the first oil change at 3000 to the last full service at 90,000, which included a cambelt change. Not the slightest wisp of smoke when the engine was started. Small repairs are also detailed: new rear discs because of scoring, new thermostat, new engine mount etc. General wear & tear stuff, really.

Cosmetically, it has two little dings down the nearside and one larger one on the front of the bonnet. These are being sorted by a dent specialist before I collect the car. Paint is generally excellent, couldn't find a scratch of any significance and there isn't any real stonechip damage to speak of. Just a few very light ones that virtually disappear when you rub the wax away. The one paintwork problem is that the lacquer has crazed at one side of the rear bumper. I intend to have this resprayed as I don't believe it will be expensive. Alloys all perfect except N/S front, which has been scuffed once right on the rim and is corroding slightly in the middle.

Inside it has a bit of wear on the very outside edge of the drivers seat, but much less than on the primera. The seats are firm and comfortable and have not sagged at all. Rest of the interior is immaculate.

On the road it would be better judged by someone with previous experience of the car, but all I can say is it's like driving a new car. Steering smooth and positive, brakes keen, clutch light to operate (although it engages quite sharply, I guess this is because of the power it has to deal with. When I went on a Ferrari drive, their clutches were similar). No vibrations, noises, etc. It accelerates like a rocket! Small delay for the turbo, then it surges forward and pins you into the seat! By far the most powerful car I've driven.

From the asking price of £3000, I negotiated a sale for £2750. This allows for the fact that the bumper could do with a respray and the tyres haven't much life left in them. Although they're all Pirelli P6000s (no skimping,then), unscuffed and evenly worn, the tread is getting rather low on all of them and none of them are going to get very far before I have to shell out on new ones.

So what do you reckon? Still a bit pricey for an 8 year old car with 96k? Personally, I'm felling rather pleased with myself. I reckon I've got an excellent example of a performance luxury saloon that is worth the money. It's a lovely car and despite it's higher age and mileage. it's general condition is equal to that of my Primera :-)

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Stu
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Sounds great, but get used to buying tyres - T5's *eat* fronts :)

If it's been well looked after, and is in good nick, it will go for many a long year. My brother bought a 740 back in 1990 (a 1989 model), he still has it now even though it has done over 170k!

Hellraiser............>

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Hellraiser

They don't have to...

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Tim S Kemp

Try and find Maxxis MA-V1's - by far the best 'budget' performance tyre I had on my Carlton.

Jealous now. Want to swap for a 1992 Mazda? Comes top in the reliability surveys ;-)

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PC Paul

Forgot to add, the original clutch lasted 150k :)

Hellraiser...........>

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Hellraiser

"PC Paul" wrote in news:TT8Ke.40957$ snipped-for-privacy@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk:

OK, I'll remember that. I know that P6000s are excellent, my Primera had the original ones on when I bought it, but they soon wear out. A slightly harder wearing tyre without a lot of compromise on grip is what I'd be looking for. No point in buying a 240bhp car and fitting crap tyres :-)

Nah....I'll stick with the Volvo and repair it now and again. Ta for the very generous offer, though ;-)

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Stu

No. The car could be left on the drive.

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AstraVanMan

"AstraVanMan" wrote in news:sf9Ke.964$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net:

Quite right, Pete. One doesn't buy a T5 to dawdle along in whilst admiring the countryside. Either use it in the appropriate manner or not at all. And using it appropriately *will* consume rubber :-)

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"Hellraiser" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@individual.net:

You're really tempting me now, but I'm stubbornly sticking with my T5 ;-)

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Stu

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Congratulations. Maybe we can all now have a bit of peace and quiet. :-) Get back to more serious things, like how to change the pads on an Escort.

Sounds like a nice car though, even if it is FWD. :-) Has it got traction control? I imagine it has with that sort of power. As Hellraisers says though. It eats fronts. Well under 10k is the norm if you tend to have a heavy foot. As for fitting budget tyres, I certainly wouldn't fit them. Tyres are one aspect of running costs om which I don't believe in making compromises just to save 20-30 quid, maybe more per tyre Especially for a relatively high performance car. What is the point of buying a good performing car, then fitting tyres that don't do justice to the cars capabilities, and possibly make the car less pleasurable to drive? The tyres on my BM cost well over £100 each. The ones on My Celica just under that. When they need replacing the same or equally as good tyres will be fitted. When even good tyre costs break down to less than a penny per per mile, the savings on budget tyres make an insignificant difference to the overall costs of running a car. Forget the cost. Get the best tyres for the car, and enjoy the cars performance to it's maximum is my advice. Mike.

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Mike G

In message , Mike G writes

Couldn't agree more.

Apropos of tyres, anyone know what the OEM 195/50/15 tyres on a '52 MX5 were? I forget what was fitted to the car we're buying except that while they were all a premium brand (and matched), I didn't recognise them as an out-and-out performance tyre.

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Steve Walker

Goodyear f1's work really well on that car. are expensive but the handling and grip are excellent. as long as you don't drive like a idiot the fronts will give you 5k and the rears 10k. enjoy it it is a great car

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jamie

Very nice - unless you're unlucky it should be a fine car, surprisingly cheap to run (apart from the tyres mentioned below!) as it'll be mainly more of the same - wear and tear and service items. Despite being fine, well put together cars they don't seem to have the same image as their German counterparts, which keeps prices a bit lower (it's an ill wind...) and the turbo models are wolves in sheep's clothing. Excellent for beating boy racers off the lights, not that anyone here would do that, of course. ;o)

Looks like seven seaterdom is beckoning for me soon and a nice V70 or 850 would fit the bill nicely (there are a couple of nice-looking 940s on Autotrader too but the handling, or reputed lack of, is a bit of a concern... comments for/against anyone?).

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Carl Bowman

You don't get that with a big V8. ;)

You do get that with a big V8. =8)

You didn't try Starship 540 then...

Sounds good. :)

I wouldn't skimp on tyres, it's a false economy on fast cars.

Enjoy!

A
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Alistair J Murray

I agree. We've (mother mostly) run 2 850's and currently a 97 S70 SE over around 150,000miles and really they're cheap as chips to run (apart from tyres, though not especially heavy- mother is fairly steady!) due to the reliability- buying a well cared for one in the first place, and an experienced service-man is the key.

The 850's had minor niggles such as door check straps, rattley trim, heater matrix bursting etc, but the S70 is far far better screwed together. Currenly on 76k (25k with us) bought 2 yrs ago for #3700. Okay its only the

2.5 10v but it does 31-34mpg and will cruise at the ton all day, and handles not too bad for a big barge. Cornering has to be pretty severe to get the P6000s to squeal.

We've had the a/c recharged and a minor problem with the cooling fan sorted and thats all the unscheduled attention its needed.

An oil change every 6months (or 5000miles) and proper 10k service every year with a local garage who is familiar with Volvo's and they'll do a big mileage.

You only get big bills if you leave a minor problem to develop into a serious one. Parts are very reasonable (not quite mondeo money) from the likes of GSF or ECP.

I wouldnt use anything other than a P6000 type or hardish compound tyre on them, especially the Turbo's. Tyre life is greatly improved if you can resist 'turbo'ing' in 1st gear, also clutch life (which are expensive to change and not for a novice / under the arches place)

And you wont find a stereo as good in anything else!

Tim..

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"Mike G" wrote in news:42f947b3$0$1296$ snipped-for-privacy@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net:

LOL...yes it was all a bit OT, but your help & support has been greatly appreciated :-)

It's a lovely car and a joy to drive. With the bumper repainted, it will pass for a lot younger than it is.

No TC, actually. Wasn't standard until 2000. The spec of a Volvo is composed of lots of options packs, so the features vary greatly. In any case, I'm pretty smooth at putting the power down. At least that's what they told me when I went for the Ferrari driving experience. My time in the short cone slalom competition was about 17s and this was about 3s faster than anyone else (about 20 drivers attended) :-)

Totally agree. I've used cheap tyres once before. Never again. Totally ruin the experience of driving a good car. P6000s can be had for about £75 each, but I may be tempted to go for something just a little longer lasting. Eagles or Potenzas, perhaps?

Very good advice indeed, IMHO.

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Stu

Steve Walker wrote in news:6Zbzd0BV0b+ snipped-for-privacy@otolith.demon.co.uk:

You can bet the original tyres worked well on the car, performance brand or not. I've heard that Lotus spend far more time trying out different tyres for OEM fit on their cars than they do on tuning the suspension!

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"jamie" wrote in news:ddcf1e$mrt$ snipped-for-privacy@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:

Thanks, Jamie. I was considering Goodyear Eagle NCT 5. F1s are only slightly dearer. Which is harder wearing?

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Stu

"Carl Bowman" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@individual.net:

Thanks. Not really interested in boy racers. You can't really get all the Volvos power onto the tarmac until you're up to about 30mph. Besides, if they want to beat me off the line, let them - I've got nothing to prove. Can easily overtake them further down the road, if I wish ;-)

Go for an 850, this was the first big Volvo with tight handling. Reviews say that it's firmness was quite a shock for 'old school' Volvo drivers. Personally, I find the T5 very comfortable (particularly good seats) and an ideal compromise between comfort & handling.

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Stu

Alistair J Murray wrote in news:jr7ps2-5uv.ln1 @florin.fluffy:

Quite true

Also true, but I've no regrets whatsoever :-)

Nah, the Volvo was relatively local and once I'd seen it, it was too good to pass over. Your BMW tips have been great, though. I'm sure they'll come in handy in the future (if I don't become a Volvo addict) ;-)

Seems like we all agree on this.

Cheers, Alistair

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