Buying a Citroen Saxo vtr

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I'm in the market to look for a Citroen Saxo vtr (100bhp model from
'01-'03 )as my first ever car purchase for around 4 - 4.5k. I've decided to
buy trade as opposed to privately just for an added bit of peace of mind..

Can anyone let me know of common pitfalls I should check out on the car
first? Tricks of the trade? Most of the examples I've seen on autotrader
have done less than 45k miles, I'd like to be able to see if there's any way
in which I can see if someone's just been thrashing it from cold starts or
been treating it normally with the odd squirt on the accelerator pedal as
and when required...

any help? words of wisdom? especially with this particular model?

thanks Johnnie



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Well from another poster on the group- constant problems with the fuel
system- fuel pumps dying, and an on going apparent fuel starvation (cutting
out / stalling / hesitancy) problem with resultant fault codes being logged
by the ECU. So check carefully for the fault lamp being on when it shouldnt
be, and drive the car from cold to fully hot over several miles to be sure
its not playing up.

Brakes may feel crap, they're all like that, though a thorough going over
(new softish pads) rough up discs / lube the sliders etc will improve them
for a short time.

The later 100brake engine has had problems with coil packs dying, but at the
moment anything French is having that problem. VW too!

Basically dont buy without some form of warranty (6 months min) and check
very carefully everything electrical. There have also been instances of Pug
306 seat syndrome- fore / aft mechanism is abit wonky and you suddenly find
yourself closer / further back from the steering wheel than you want with
resultant warm underwear moment.

Apart from that lot, the Saxo is actually fairly reliable and a goodish
handler (well compared to a standard Saxo) So check for any signs of hard
use- sloppy or choppy handling, curbed alloys, sloppy gear change, worn
synchros on 1st and 2nd going up and down the box.

Otherwise basic checks apply- service history on the dot at the right
mileage / time span. Insist on the V5, and make contact with the previous
owner. I'd always consider this an absolute must, especially on a car which
could turn into a money pit if its been abused in the past. I think I would
avoid anything with a large bore exhaust or lowered suspenders.

Make sure you try afew to get a judge on what a good one and a bad one is
like, dont buy the first you see- they're are alot of VTR's about. And dont
buy an older low mileage car in preference to one thats done miles in a
short time- slow town running is the quickest way to kill a car- unless its
at good money.

Sure the other group members will bring up other things!

Tim..



Re: Buying a Citroen Saxo vtr

Johnnie (nospam@kent.ac.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :


Have you asked insurance companies for quotes yet?

1. Paxo VTR = Boy racer wet dream
2. .ac.uk = Stoodent
3. First car = no NCB
4. 4.5k purchase = Fully comp insurance

1+2+3+4 = Very large quote....

Were you planning on having any of that 4.5k budget spare to buy the car
once you've allocated the insurance amount?

Or were you planning on the usual transparent "No, it's my mum's car,
honest, Mr. Broker" fraud to get it insured?

Re: Buying a Citroen Saxo vtr



Trouble is, there are actually one or two sensible students who can
handle that sort of car as a first car - and they have to carry the can
for all those who can't.

--
"Bother", said Skipweasel as he molished a little jig.



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He heh..nice investigatory work. I've checked it out with Norwich Union
beforehand...they want 550tpft for my Wolverhampton address, and 800 odd
tpft for when I move to London in September (grad job).

I've talked the talk for years, and although I've tootled around in Ford
Granada's, 106 diesel,saxo diesel, polo tdi and a fabia....they haven't
actually been mine and just been me picking up the keys in the kitchen
whenever I needed to...decided now that I must learn how to walk the walk
for myself......

insurance budget is separate to the 4.5k, I could do fully comp, but its the
wrong side of 1,500 and as I won't be driving it on a mon-fri(I'll be one of
those lemmings travelling to canary wharf on the tube every morning) I'll
just be careful on the few trips I make out on the weekends to go see
friends...

Johnnie



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ok, so now I'm having sleepless nights deciding whether I should take on
fully comp or tpft....suggestions please?????





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Fully comp with legal cover. At least then when an uninsured driver hits you
then you can claim on your insurance for your car, and the insurance company
will try and recover the loss from the other driver.




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So I wouldn't be covered against an uninsured driver hitting me if I had
TPFT with legal cover?




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It's a lot less grief.

Re: Buying a Citroen Saxo vtr

hey!!!!
my bro goes there :)
anyway, the reason they are all low mileage is because after the one or two
years worth of free insurance you get when you buy new, the spotty oiks who
buy the cars can't afford to get anymore because they are still on finance
to pay the car off so they flog it

and being as they are spotty little oiks, the chances of it being hammered
from the off are very good

HPi check
what you need to do is see how many owners it's had, more than 2 walk away
HPi check
servicing? full history otherwise your warranty is worthless
HPi check
tyres? how have they worn? are they all the same?
HPi check
brakes? are they crap or not?
HPi check
accident damage, is it a write off?
HPi check
did I mention you should have it HPi checked in case it's still got
outstanding finance on it?
no?
well, you will need to get it HPi checked for that reason

how do I know so much?
my cousin tends to buy them new then flog them after a year
been doing it for the last 3 years so he knows what the going rate is
and seeing as he's in the army he doesn't get to drive it alot and it tends
to sit in the road for months at a time and then get thrashed to within an
inch
say hello to nimrod :)


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*shakes fist*

poster in disguise


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