Car broke down :-(

My used and abused Rover 418TD has finally given up the ghost. Oil light came on as I was driving so I pulled over and had a look under the bonnet...

...oil everywhere! Thought it might be a split or loose oil filter, but as I'm in the AA I called them out to get dirty instead of me! ;-)

After a few minutes the guy found the problem; the crimped joint on the high pressure hose from the oil pump to the oil cooler (radiator behind bumper) had come off, so the oil pipe was just aiming at the front of the car and showering everything with hot oil!

Guy recommends me to buy a new hose from Rover rather than a second-hand one from a scrapyard, but I know they'll be expensive from Rover and the car was only a couple of hundred anyway so I'm loathe to spend £50+ on a short length of pipe.

I'm tempted to try two jubilee clips to hold the pipe back on to the spigot (which is flared at the end) - if that fails then I'm no worse off than I am now surely?

Darren

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Darren Jarvis
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Answered your own question there? Worth a try.. tho arranging someone to follow you for a while in case you need a tow might be a good idea.

Reply to
Mark Hewitt

Yes you are worse off as yet again, the lack of oil pressure will result in more damage to the bottom end.

High pressure hose like that is expensive no matter where you get it from. Check Rover out though, they're sometimes quite cheap. For example, it only costs £5.33 for a genuine filter from Rover yet the cheapest Motor Factor one I've found is over a quid dearer than that.

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Conor

"> Yes you are worse off as yet again, the lack of oil pressure will

Sod the bottom end, I'll worry about that when it happens! Another Rover diesel that's failed it's MOT would probably not cost much more than what I'm guessing the hose would be so I would buy one of those and swap the engine over myself (and have all the rest of the bits to boot). Just did the same thing with another Rover 'cos I wanted a new headlamp, driver's seat and two electric windows - worked out cheaper to buy an MOT faiulure car (GTi spec!) than the bits on their own from the scrapyard.

I'll ring on Monday, but if it's more than about twenty quid it's getting jubilee clips!

Darren

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Darren Jarvis

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No I don't!

Reply to
Guy King

Try Yellow pages for a Co that specialises in supplying hydraulic hoses. One that has the equipment to make high pressure hoses with couplings to order. I had a couple of hoses made for my SD1 oil cooler. Took the old ones in, and the guy copied them for about half the cost of OE ones. Mike.

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Mike G

I always used to use clips when I had a half-race Spridget - two at each=20 end just in case! Make sure that they are good quality steel clips, not=20 the cheapos. Don't forget, engine oil pressure is trivial compared to the hundreds of=20 psi of power hydraulics. Car companies use crimped joints for cheapness=20 not strength. Dave

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Dave

Assuming the hose end is still in good condition, a jubilee clip will be fine.

The other option is to try a local industrial hydraulic components supplier - they should be able to either supply a complete one or crimp a new hose onto the old ends. I had both the hoses on my SD1 oil cooler done at a local place for a few pounds.

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Dave Plowman (News)

That's exactly what I've done. Seems to have done the trick anyhow and whether idling or revving it looks solid with no leaks. Just have to risk it, though looking at the cheap tin crimps on the rest of the pipes, I've probably done a better job than the manufacturer!!!

Indeed. Closer inspection shows that the working pressure is nowhere near as high as I thought it might be (originally I thought it was reinforced rubber hose, but it's not, it's just the same stuff as used on coolant pipes). Again, the 'orrible tinny crimps remaining on the other pipes are more of a worry now than the double-jubileed joint I've made. Just can't understand why they'd use those crappy crimps on the oil hoses and jubilee clips on the coolant (and a different type of crimp on the PS & vacuum hoses!)...?

Whilst waiting for the AA to come out I followed the oil trail back up the road to find out where it had started. Thankfully I'd only gone about a hundred yards or so from the start of the trail before pulling over so I must have noticed pretty quickly; and because it was slightly downhill I was able to coast that distance with the engine idling. Did find the crimp on the road a few yards after where the trail started, though at the time I didn't recognise what it was (looks like that foil they put over the cap and neck of spirit bottles!)

Darren

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Darren Jarvis

No damage to the hose or spigot; just looks like the crap tin-alike crimp wasn't gripping very tightly and a combination of oil pressure and normal vibration/flexing blew the pipe off the end.

I've put two jubilee clips on now (probably overkill, but I don't fancy a repeat experience) and it seems to work. Time will tell it's reliability...

Darren

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Darren Jarvis

Think I've fixed it now - turned out to be not to be high pressure hose so I've put two jubilee clips on the end.

Fingers crossed, I'll report back if it doesn't hold.

Thanks for all your suggestions and comments.

Darren

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Darren Jarvis

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