Conti Eco Contact 3 wrong way round

Hi,

After saying good things about my new conti eco contact 3's (165/70R13) I've just noticed that the rear offside one is on the wrong way round - i.e. the inside is on the outside. The tread is not symmetric side to side so it looks a bit odd which is how I noticed it.

How dangerous is this? Do I need to get it sorted urgently or can it wait until a suitable time?

Thanks,

Tony

Reply to
Tony Brett
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I'd do it sooner rather than later in case the wear pattern changes.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

It probably makes the best part of bugger all difference but it will fail an MOT.

John

Reply to
John Greystrong

I'd look to get it sorted soon, an insurance company will take any opportunity not to pay out in the event of an accident.

Reply to
Depresion

The usual reason for inside/outside asymmetry in car tyres is simply to put more rubber to the outside, where the wear is greatest.

At least I was told that by a Michelin engineer back when they introduced their XAS tyre.

John

Reply to
John Henderson

Indeed - and the garage that fitted this tyre is also the place that MOTs it!

Tony

Reply to
Tony Brett

When looking for tyres the other day I wondered about that and what to do for the spare? I believe many cars don't have spares these days (and fewer drivers would do anything with them even if they did) but if you do and use an asymmetric tyre, which way round to you put it on the rim (sods law says it will be the wrong way I guess). :-(

All the best ..

T i m

Reply to
T i m

Not a problem because the tyre has an outside and an inside, and so long as they match the outside and the inside of the spare wheel, the tyre will be in the right orientation when the spare wheel is fitted to either side of the car.

Tony

Reply to
Tony Brett

Ah, I thought they had a rotation direction like many motorbike and cycle tyres?

Or are there some car tyres like that as well and if so what are they called (other than 'directional' I guess)?

All the best ..

T i m

Reply to
T i m

You have to be careful about getting the tyres the right way round, if you get these crossed it can be painful.

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Fred

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:37:07 +0100, "Fred" >> (and fewer drivers would do anything with them even if they did) but

There are some funny names and descriptions out there eh. ;-)

So, what's the absolute cheapest 185/70-14 we can find out there (as a temp set of wheels for my old Jeep kit car)?

All the best ..

T i m

Reply to
T i m

There is nothing available anywhere that is suitable for your jeep type thingy, the cheapest thing in that size would be Debicia Passio (88T) . I aint got a clue what the tread patern is like.

Reply to
Fred

You are missing the fact that when the wheel gets put on the other side of the car it is the other way round, which in turn makes sure the tyre is still the right way round. Think about it...

Reply to
Tony Brett

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:09:03 +0100, "Fred" > temp set of wheels for my old Jeep kit car)?

Well, I was looking for an 80 profile 185/14 Fred but I've been given set of genuine Weller / Rickman wheels (supposedly specially made by Weller for the Rangers) and they wouldn't allow the fit of 80's (the tyre would contact the lower road spring cup and hence much confusion previously (the current 80's on my existing 10 spoke steel wheels work ok as the geometry is different)).

So, the plan is to put the cheapest (currently £22.95) 70 profile tyres I can find on the Wellers (when they come back from the shot blasters) and then fit some 'chunky' tyres later when I get the existing wheels done-up.

I have found some nice tyres for that:

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They may well be soft but I don't intend doing many miles in the thing and the Colways perished before I wore them out (and they even gave me a new pair under their lifetime guarantee) ;-)

I was given a good Falken 185/70-14 on one of the Wellers and they do a M+S version for £32 delivered so I could go with them for road / everyday use.

All the best ..

T i m

p.s. I've just replaced the gearbox (for a quiet one), custom made std 1300 MK2 Escort (+1") front road springs, tomorrow I hope to replace the Recaro's with Metro GT seats (mate wants the Recaro's for his Defender special) and Monday I should be replacing all the brake pipes and hoses (with copper-nickel / brass fittings / ss braided hoses).

Then it will be the wheels / tyres and a Navy Landy grey paint job (probably brush).

I might also swap the 1300 for another one that we ran up on the floor the other day , once I've done some comparison compression tests etc.

Reply to
T i m

I did, and that's fine if the tyre only has an inside and outside Tony. What of those tyres that I have seen with a rotational directional tread? (probably what I was confusing 'asymmetric with earlier). :-(

A tyre fitted to a rim to revolve anticlockwise on the nearside would then revolve clockwise if fitted on the offside, hence tread facing the 'wrong' way?

I've since found this and all is now clear (to me anyway). ;-)

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All the best ..

T i m

Reply to
T i m

Oh do tell us why as I doubt you have a clue what you're talking about.

Reply to
Paul P

And how many garages will sell MOT fail insurance in order to invent a big list of jobs that need doing - but none of the parts paid for by the warranty company appear on your car. The MOT test is a big scam anyway, it only guarantees a minimal level of safety at the time of the test and not after. Companies who have large repair workshops will often fail a car in order to get business. Some main Vauxhall dealers have done this in the past and been investigated by Trading Standards. The other con is a garage offering to sell you a car with a 12month MOT. Again, it's the main delaers who will MOT them and mark things as advisory knowing full well the car would not pass an MOT at another garage. It's a huge scam and you have to be aware of which garages are doing it. I really wanted to put a list of the scamming main dealers up on a web site so people could avoid them in their area.

Reply to
Paul P

Insurance companies have tried doing that if the "make" of tyre is not one the manufacturer recommended or if ou fitted them yourself. They do refuse claims (even Adrian Flux) on cars that have been modified or butchered by changing tyres and suspension components.

Reply to
Paul P

Well if it was directional 4.1.2.e says it's a fail. But Eco contact 3s aren't. You really ought to get an advisory though.

Reply to
Duncan Wood

Adrian Flux don't insure cars....

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Conor

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