engine overheat and cold air -thermostat?

Yesterday coming home from work in -10 C, a 26 km drive,

I was getting just cold air threw the heater. I was watching the temp guage all the way home and as I got near my home about 20 minutes in, the temp guage on my 88 toyota pickup was at the red line.

Once parked in driveway, I noticed the rad pushing fluid into the overflow and could smell hot antifreeze.

I have noticed the past few weeks that the temp guage has been rising and but then would suddenly start to go down seemed unusual at the time so I have been watching it. --yesterday was the first time, it did not go down. I went for a little drive later that evening and this time, the temp rose even faster -7 minute drive to move temp guage to red and still no heat from heater.

I assumed/read that you would have one or the other, that is, engine overheats so thermostat is stuck in closed position No heat in car so thermostat is stuck in open position.

I seem to have both scenerio's going on.

Any thoughts -is it even the thermostat? if so, I know the thermostat is relatively inexpensive? should I buy

3rd party or from dealer and finally, how long/shop time to replace one (I am assuming one hour or so) and is it worth trying to do it myself?
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you may have another fault, such as frozen coolant.

Reply to
mrcheerful

Seen that, quite funny at the time as it was not my car and the owner was a bit of a non plussed divvy.

Was also funny watching the badly labouring engne trying to Kangeroo out of the engine bay.

PDH

Reply to
Paul Hubbard

Vert possibly thermostat or possibly head gasket feeding compression gases into the coolant and causing an airlock.

Reply to
gazzafield

All was fine in that same morning, over the past few days, I have been noticing varying lengths of time for the heat to kick in, sometimes works well, other times, not so good. The temp guage has been also been rising to just below the red and then it drops dramatically to well below the normal mark. Have not paid attn to where it leveled off.

I assumed that it was the thermostat that was sticking and that was my explanation.

head gasket sounds expensive. I will start with the thermostat and rad flush. Any other advice to rule out the head gasket would be greatly appreciated. Some say to run the engine and tab on the thermostat housing.

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gp

Run it till it gets to operating temperature and switch off. leave it a couple of minutes then take the cap off the expansion tank. If you get a lot of escaping pressure and a kind of "glug glug" sound then I would definitely be looking at head gasket. Is the water level holding up?

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gazzafield

Plain old rad leak can do that - had two cars now who barely leaked water but what did leak evap'd on the rad, then when they cool they suck in air which causes air locks and overheating followed by cooling just as symptoms state.

My method of diagnosis would be to look for leaks when hot, if none are found use rad-weld (ducks avoiding flames) and top up the coolant purely to see if it remedies the situation. If it does you have a leak of some sort and need to flush the radweld out of the system once you find it.

J
Reply to
Coyoteboy

Leaks are somewhat more noticeable than a blown head gasket.

Reply to
gazzafield

First remove the thermostate connect up again after flushing the system.

See how she runs then. If you are not lossing coolant then it was the thermostat. If you loosing coolant the headgasket is a possible.

Also check the waterpump. My transit was overheating and it turned out to tbe the water pump. However I still can't see anything wrong with the old one. My guess is the impellor loosens up when hot and wasn't moving enough water.

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david.cawkwell

Some are not that much more noticable. My Peugeot used to leak from a pin prick in the hot end of the rad. It wasnt even visible - it evapourated before it became visible but sucked plenty of air in when it cooled. The only reason I found out it was leaking was the radweld test - it cured it until i flushed it again so i pressure tested the rad when cold and found it dripping out where previously it vanishe without trace, not even a mark on the metal.

J
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Coyoteboy

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember snipped-for-privacy@tesco.net saying something like:

I had exactly that problem with a Transit water pump. The impeller was a loose fit on the shaft when the pump came out - pressfit crap.

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Grimly Curmudgeon

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