Focus Temperature Sensor / Fan Issues

Hi

I have a Ford Focus 1.6TDCi 08 plate Mk2.5.

A couple of days ago the engine got rather warm, the dash sensor was reading about 90ºC - a little higher than normal but far from exessive as i turned off the engine a beeper went off and the display showed "High Engine Temperature". I cannot be sure if this was just after i turned off the engine or just before, literally was as i turned the key. I then switched on the ignition again and noted the fan did not kick in, started up and drove around for a while with low revs to cool the engine. The Alarm stopped pretty much immediatley and and has not recurred.

Upon returning home I located the coolant sensor (from the side of the engine) and shorted out the terminals, with the ingnition on and the engine running the fan did not kick in.

I had my OBDII reader attached which has two temperature read outs, one was clearly the sensor i was testing (displayed -40ºC unplugged and

140ºC shorted out) there was also anther temperature reading on the scanner which was reading around 40ºC.

I read that this is possibly an engine bay temp sensor, but cannot locate it?

Can anyone advise if the fan should kick in when i short out the coolant sensor?

Can anyone advise where to find the engine bay temp sensor?

While I am here, cambelt due soon anything other than the belt _KIT_ i should be replacing? I will be changing the aux belt too.

All advice greatfully recieved

Reply to
Tom Burton
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No.The sensor will be an analogue device, providing a range of values, not on old-fashioned bi-metallic switch.

Pretty much all sensors on anything vaguely modern act as inputs to the ECU; be careful when shorting things out on a car of the last couple of decades as you may either cause damage, or flag a logged fault in the ECU. For example, this input may have been monitored to detect an open or closed circuit fault.

The belt interval is 125,000 or 10 years; are you sure it's due?

Chris

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Chris Whelan

Noted!

Whats the best way to persuade the fan to operate artificially?

I've heard that and Ive also had 80K recommended, its heading towards

80k now, and its one of them things id rather do before schedule...

A neighbour has a garage and is fully insured, I'd rather tip him the nod that he can have it to do during a quiet period / over christmas rather than get it a tooth out myself...

Just would like to know what sort of £££ im letting myself in for, and if there is anything i should consider changing along side it... Water pumps etc. My last car had a thermostat right behing the belt costing about fiver that failed stuck open about a month after the belt was changed!

Reply to
Tom Burton
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Realistically, you can't.

You could leave the engine ticking over after a run, and keep a careful eye on the gauge, to check that the fan cuts in.

Best to look in the handbook, but the information I provided was from Autodata, and it's pretty reliable.

If the book says 125K, I really wouldn?t bother until at least 100K

I had the belt done on my last Focus a bit ahead of schedule as I was planning to keep the car. A few months later it was written off...

Chris

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Chris Whelan

I had similiar symptoms in a VW (fans not running). It turned out to be the fuse for the radiator fans. In my case, the fuse is a hefty 50A job located in a very hard-to-find place.

The fuse hadn't blown. It had simply broken, as I discovered when I removed it.

John

Reply to
John Henderson

Checked that :-)

Thanks anyway

Reply to
Tom Burton

Is the fan switched through a relay? Dud relay?

John

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John Henderson

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