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Ford Ecoboost engine/Motorpoint experience

I made a couple of posts recently relating to buying a replacement car for my wife and this is just a quick followup.

Motorpoint:- Despite the opinions of one particular poster who had never used Motorpoint and who was using eight year old anecdotal evidence..... our experience of using Motorpoint was quite pleasant.

The sales staff were not pushy. You had a look round the stock and told them what cars you were interested in and they gave you the keys for you to look round the car without the salesman present. A test drive was not a problem. I drove the car initially and the salesman suggested that my wife had a drive. Given that these are low mileage cars (ours was only

2k) I took the decision to test drive only after we were fairly sure we were going to buy it.

The salesman admitted that they didn't actually sell the car (he said the prices did that) but he was just there to complete the paperwork. The price is the price. I tried to haggle but without luck. Perhaps if I was part exchanging or using their finance I might have got something but we were paying cash with no part-ex. The salesman did make the mistake of leaving the room with the car details up on his computer screen and I could see how much they had paid for it. Their margin was more than I thought. The car cost me £12600 (Ford Fiesta Titanium with

125ps Ecoboost) and they had paid £11900 for it. The car was 3 months old with 2000 miles on it. Overall, quite a good experience of Motorpoint.

Ford Ecoboost engine:- I was wondering how good this engine was. A 1.0 three cylinder engine producing 125ps sounds like there must be a big downside somewhere. A work colleague has one and he likes it. He took me out for a spin and it seemed quite spirited.

We've put about 500 miles on the new car now and I'm so impressed with this engine. It doesn't sound like a sewing machine like I though it might. You need to be above 3k revs when pressing on but its not gutless below that. In fact its just right for pottering around town.

The biggest surprise is how smooth and quite it is when cruising at

70/80/90 on the motorway. An indicated 75mph is 2250 revs in fifth. The wind noise is more pronounced than the engine noise. Fuel economy on combined country roads and dual carriageway is 47mpg, a lot less that the claimed 65mpg but we are happy with it. I'm sure it will do over 50mpg on a long run. Its road tax exempt which is handy.

If it is reliable and makes it to 125k miles then we will be happy. Given the small, high speed turbo, I'll probably change the oil and filter at half the recommended interval.

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Paul Giverin
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6% is a high margin???
Reply to
The Revd

Thanks for the review.

I'm looking at the idea of buying a Focus with Ecoboost engine, and a chat with a couple of owners who were very enthusiastic about the car has almost convinced me.

A Fiesta would be big enough for me spacewise, but having had one for a day when my Mondeo was serviced it drove me mad bouncing over the road humps which surround my location, and my back suffered.

OTOH, the Mondeo rides them beautifully, and it's only 9 years old...

Reply to
Gordon H

I think I'd want to get some long term reviews in before buying - the VW twin-charged TSIs were given great reviews when new... then they started to blow up.

They're also incredibly sensitive to driving styles (all these new-fangled small capacity turbos - not specifically the EcoBoost) - so real MPG varies wildly. I was getting low to mid 30s from a twin-charged TSI.

Real MPG (see the Honest John website) comes in at anywhere between

35mpg and 47mpg for the 125bhp version of the EcoBoost. The 100bhp is similar.

Contrast this with a similarly powered 116d - real MPG 47.9-62.3mpg. (The ED version turns in 50.2-65.0mpg).

If you really want a Focus, though - the 1.6TDCI in the latest car seems to be the sweet spot (that used to be an awful engine, but the latest incarnation seems to have fixed this) - 45-59.5mpg in the real world.

I know there are arguments about the longevity and maintenance costs of a modern diesel - but the EcoBoost petrols rely largely on the same complexities, so are unlikely to be any cheaper to maintain - but are likely to be less reliable due to the high state of tune for their capacities.

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SteveH

In message , Gordon H writes

On the 13 plate Fiesta models, Ford have altered the suspension and tyre profile to address that problem. Ours is fine.

Quote from HonestJohn:-

"Criticisms addressed include steering that lacked as much ?feel? as I would like, over-stiff suspension and tyres of sometimes such low profile they jarred your teeth.

None of that now.

There?s a bit more ?stiction? in the steering on the straight-ahead and masses more feel through the corners. That?s combined with more compliant suspension, better damping and slightly deeper profile tyres (in our case 195/50 R16s).

The result is a really lovely ride and handling compromise that I personally found delightful."

Reply to
Paul Giverin

Indeed , we are all anxious so see how the oil lubed internal timing belt is going to last, and the very small, very high speed turbo! And obviously if Ford have got the mapping right to avoid VW's TSI detonation and consequent expiry problems...

Tim..

Reply to
Tim..

The courtesy car was a 13 plate with 650 miles on the clock, and I certainly enjoyed driving it, with the severe road humps the only problem.

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Gordon H

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