How much would people on this newsgroup be prepared to pay for a gallon of fuel?

I'm currently knocking about in an LPG Vectra Estate as well as the Range Rovers. Quite funny. Rangie's do around 50-60 miles for £20, Vectra does 220 for

Where I live, giving up the car would mean giving up work. I have no=20 alternative.

--=20 Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't=20 looking good either. - Scott Adams

Well I'm recently retired and me and Mrs are living on slightly under 200 pounds a week, every year the kids' club together and buy us season tickets for the National Trust, so we very often go off for a day to visit various places around the country, this can frequently often involve doing well over

200 miles a day in round trips. A number of guides at some of the National Trust houses which we have visited over the last couple of months have commented on how much quieter it's been so far this year, to me it's not difficult to see the reason why and of course as you say about increasing prices there are limits to what people can afford to pay, which imv certainly doesn't bode well, I think that the knock on effect to every business/industry and every individual is going to be horrendous.

Conor gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

I think the Duhg-answer would be "Move house".

Once it hit £2 a litre I'd struggle to afford private use. £2.70 and it'd be costing me money to drive around for work.

OTOH although I'm a regular cyclist, I really can't see how my life could carry on like it does now without a car and affordable fuel. Visiting relatives would be very costly, going near enough anywhere beyond a couple of miles is a bit of a gip (which is most places these days - cinema? shops? any kind of facility in general?), I wouldn't be able to pick and choose between supermarkets. IME cycling is a lot faster than getting bus, even over relatively long distances, but that's not saying much. I suspect we'd all be thorougly miserable.

In most places, it still doesn't alter the fact. There's not many places with 24/7 PT that serves industrial areas.

I suppose I could get a job leaving home at 3am on Monday morning not to return until 6-7pm Friday night but then whats the point of having a home and family if you don't get to see them or enjoy the fruits of your labour?

Unfortunately the kicking that the government received last week still doesn't seem to have sunk into their thick heads. They're still considering "reviewing" the 2p fuel hike they've got planned for Septemberish.

Unfortunately, they seem to think that the 10p tax band makes more difference than ripping the motorist off for £30-50 a month more in tax.

The country is rapidly heading to the dogs and its this bunch of inept thieves that have caused the situation we're all in, mainly through insane taxation on anything they can get away with.

Sooner they're out of power, the better. They've been lying to us since they were voted in and people *still* voted for them again. Hopefully now everyone's being hit in the wallet on a daily basis they might think twice before voting Labour next time.

When the car was first invented, only the rich could afford one. Same for holiday travel - only the rich could afford to take foreign holidays and I know that my parents had to make do with a few days in Blackpool and that was it.

Then came a time when the average Joe Bloggs in the street got above his station, and he found that he could afford a car and a foreign holiday. The rich people did not like this and so decided to put the average working man back in his place again, and the rich people will only be happy when we are shining their shoes and back below stairs where we belong.

Tongue-in-cheek after a few beers but I bet there's a grain of truth in there somewhere :o)

John

You're complaining about 2p a litre? It's gone up about 15p since last year without any tax hikes involved - it's the price of crude which is making the significant difference. 2p is sod-all compared to that.

Remember how tax used to be 80% of the price you paid? It's now rather closer to 60%.

You should be happy though - the premium for diesel is growing :-)

clive

"Ivan" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net:

It really depends on whether my work will give me a payrise that reflects the real cost of inflation, rather than the limp labour version.

Dunno - my car's for leisure use only, and the fixed costs aren't much, so I could probably keep it for longer than some. Driving slower might be an option though.

I think what you'll actually find is it's more like boiling frogs - people will just stick with it and maybe change behaviour a bit, rather than abandoning the car completely.

clive

Not the 2p itself, more the fact that they're taking the piss by adding more tax to the huge amount they're getting anyway.

I remember the fuel blockades were about the price going to 80p a litre. Since it's passed the £1 mark it's flown up.

And so it should. Loads more tax on diesel, and take it off petrol.

Diesel, filthy stuff.

Any government that reduced road tax and slashed fuel back to 90p/litre would be elected I bet heh.

Not since they raised stamp duty - it'll cost the thick edge of £20k in stamp duty for me to move to an identical house nearer work. They get you every which way!

There's far more than a grain of truth in it.

Only mass production gave power to the workers, who then forced wealth distribution. Now we rely so heavily on services and much of production is relocatable, the worker is back in his place. Disposable and cheap.

Andy

The cost to put petrol or desiel on the forcourt is something around 40 pence per litre 80 pence is tax

More like 47/73 - and it's the left hand figure which is going up in leaps and bounds. If it hits 1.50/litre on the forecourt, it'll be about 75/75.

cheers, clive

It costs less than 2 dollars a barrel to lift it out of the ground ,its just the way the tax escalator works .Most other countries have a fixed tax collection figures